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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:16 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: The 'other' blown up RGV250: A question Reply with quote

Hullo,

As many of you may know, Gooses was not the only RGV250 to blow up this summer.

Mine destroyed a sparkplug at Cadwell park. It somehow bent the side electrode over to touch the centre electrode.

Not good.

The piston is now marked, but perfectly servicable. I took the head off a few weeks ago and inspected it. The bores are ok, the head is fine, and everything else looks fine.

I stuck a new plug in the head, and today I finally got around to starting 'er up. She runs, but she also makes a very loud intermittent scraping noise.

Keith has commented already that the piston hitting the plug could have been caused by a bearing gone (either big end or small end).

Is the noise I described consistent with this? Confused
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PostPosted: 16:40 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hi, i dont know if a head gasket is used on your bike, but if left out on bikes that need them it causes very high compression, which causes "pinking" or "detonation" with lower octane petrols of today. Also, no head gasket when needed can cause the piston to hit the spark plug, as the gasket "packs out" the space known as a squish, which is needed to stop the piston hitting either the top of the cylinder head or the plug.
many thanks.
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PostPosted: 16:45 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mark

I would say take the barrels off and check the pistons (you are most of the way there already) and check for play in the con rods.

All the best

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PostPosted: 17:41 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

have you talked to the guys on https://www.rgv250.co.uk/forums/
they all know there stuff,
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 21:54 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

rpg wrote:
hi, i dont know if a head gasket is used on your bike, but if left out on bikes that need them it causes very high compression, which causes "pinking" or "detonation" with lower octane petrols of today. Also, no head gasket when needed can cause the piston to hit the spark plug, as the gasket "packs out" the space known as a squish, which is needed to stop the piston hitting either the top of the cylinder head or the plug.
many thanks.


It has 'O' ring heads (and 1.4mm base gaskets) so doesn't need a head gasket. You can lay the head down on a flat surface without the spark plug touching it. (IE even when the piston is TDC it won't touch the plug).

Plus it ran fine for two whole trackdays before it went pop! Smile

Took the head off but would need to move the powervalve control cable box to get the barrel off, which is a total nightmare.

Tempted to pay someone to do it... as I don't really have time to strip the RGV, especially when I have plans for the Buell which take precedence. Smile
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PostPosted: 22:18 - 28 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Took the head off but would need to move the powervalve control cable box to get the barrel off


you're missing all the fun Razz errr Neutral Confused
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
I have plans for the Buell which take precedence. Smile


Do tell.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If either RGV are track bike I recommend getting one of these clicky
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PostPosted: 00:50 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

That plug was absolutely shamless! Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:55 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I thought it was quite subtle. In fact very subtle, almost as subtle as a very subtle thing thats been hidden away from prying eyes for over a thousand years.

whereas this...

Clicky

is less subtle. Laughing
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MarJay
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PostPosted: 14:47 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
MarJay wrote:
I have plans for the Buell which take precedence. Smile


Do tell.


Muller power clutch (reduces the effort required to pull the clutch)

Spring loaded belt tensioner (won't snap the belt if you do a stoppie)

very very tempted to install the lower primary gearing kit, as apparently the XB12R is geared for 160mph as standard. It never reaches this because it doesn't have the power. If you drop the primary drive gearing then it will do a more realistic 150mph and will be easier to ride in town apparently. At the moment it is impossible to ride below 25mph for more than a few seconds without my left wrist crying in pain.

... not to mention easier wheelies. Shifty
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Definately lower the gearing, its a cunt as is.

Of course, you really want a nice cheap (£1400) SV to hone your wheelie skills on first. The sort I'm selling.
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