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Mozzer
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PostPosted: 15:28 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Lock2Lock, How would you react? Reply with quote

I hadn't heard/thought of this before now, but i've been browing VisorDown and noticed a link in someone signature to www.lock2lock.co.uk

Basically, for the cost of production & postage they send you a sticker to stick on your bike stating that you are ok for other bikers to chain their chain to your chain, making it hard for anyone in a van to come and pick your bike up and take it away; although from what I read most people just do this anyway with or without the sticker as it wouldn't really cause anybody any problems... when you need to go you can remove yourself from the link and leave.

How would you react if you came back to find somebody elses chain connected to your chain?

Any flaws in the idea (Other than some dumbass chaining themself to your wheel or trying to ride off and pulling a row of bikes down)?
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T1z3R
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

id probably feel my bike was more secure if i returned to find it chained to someone elses chain.

personally though i dont think i would chain mine up to someone else cos i never feel that comfortable parking right close to another bike in the first place.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

With a Oxford monster like mine, their ring can go through your's and you'll be able to detach from theirs by unlocking yours.

You can't do it with all locks.
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T1z3R
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PostPosted: 15:42 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

killa wrote:
You can't do it with all locks.


i "think" although it says locks its actually referring to chains...so if you link chains with someone then either party can unlock and ride away without the other being present.
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PostPosted: 15:43 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good idea if there is nothing else to chain it to. Thing is, for someone to loop their chain though yours without touching your bike, the chains would have to be slack and probably laying on the ground like in this pic https://www.lock2lock.co.uk/assets/locked-x-3-sm.jpg which isn't the cleverest of ideas.

Whoever thought up the idea is savvy though, £10 for 2 small stickers. He/She must be raking it in.
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

they do say its a not for profit organisation on their site but not sure if i believe it either Thinking
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you start moving my chain and it tugs on the bike then the shock sensor will set the alarm off. It's a good idea though, chaining your chain to theirs. You open your lock and uncouple from everyone elses chain...

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PostPosted: 15:51 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ive seen too many people ride off without removing locks.....so i wouldnt be happy if they chained up to me.
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

thing is, if your bike is chained to some other bikers chain and you are going home, you would unlock your chain leaving their bike chained to nothing!
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PostPosted: 16:08 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I wouldn't mind if someone did, but you always get that idiot who would have a moan.
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PostPosted: 16:11 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay_666 wrote:
thing is, if your bike is chained to some other bikers chain and you are going home, you would unlock your chain leaving their bike chained to nothing!


That was my concern....
If there isn't anything to chain it to, then the chain goes through the rear wheel, under the frame and over the top of the seat so it's not resting on the ground nor can the bike be rolled.

There's no way another bike would get close enough to put a chain through mine. Unless we all carried an extra chain...
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay_666 wrote:
thing is, if your bike is chained to some other bikers chain and you are going home, you would unlock your chain leaving their bike chained to nothing!


But if they weren't part of the sceme their bike would be chained to nothing anyway iyswim.
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jay_666
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PostPosted: 17:10 - 29 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Look at the pic in SpannerMonkey's first post.

If the guy in the middle took his chain off and went home, the other bikes would be left chained to nothing. Ok, it still prevents the bike from being wheeled away but it doesnt stop the bike being lifted into a van (which is the idea behind lock2lock) Neutral
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PostPosted: 02:50 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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thing is, if your bike is chained to some other bikers chain and you are going home, you would unlock your chain leaving their bike chained to nothing!


But surely if there was a better alternative (like some fixed furnature) to chain themselves to in the first place they would choose that over your chain. Interlinking the chains is something they would do if there wasn't a better option, so if you unlock and leave, the other bike will be left in the same situation as it would have been had your bike not been there to begin with.

As for being worried about some person chaining to your wheel. The sticker doesn't actually give instructions on what to do, it just gives the name and website of the scheme, so if you weren't in the scheme to begin with, you wouldn't be looking out for the sticker (thus wouldnt chain to them anyway) and if you weren't in the scheme but spotted the sticker, chances are you would go visit the website and check out what its about, and still wouldn't chain to them beforehand.
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PostPosted: 03:21 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So has anyone seen a bike with one of these stickers on?

Tbh the only place I could see this possibly working would be London.
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PostPosted: 03:31 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well, I think it's a pretty damn good idea. The whole sticker business strikes me as a bit of an excuse to cash in, but way too many people are getting their bikes stole these days. extra protection, even if it's only until the other biker returns, is always welcome.

I would be quite chuffed and grateful if someone tied their lock to mine, hehe.
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PostPosted: 07:35 - 30 Aug 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a good idea and people have been using it for years scheme or not. If there is a security bar like on the bike bay outside where i am in Victoria then you would chain to that. If there were no bar you could either use a disc-lock for your security, or leave your chain laying on the floor. There shouldn't be any misunderstandings because if the chain is on the floor it's pretty much useless as a security device and is probably left there for this very purpose. Anyone with half an ounce of savvy should be able to pick up the end of a chain and loop another through it without distrbing the bike (but then the alarms re-set after 30 seconds anyway).
As Dave1rs said there is a risk of someone riding-off with the chains attached, but the easy way out of that is to loop your own chain round the wheel twice so there's no way the next guy could link up if that worries you. Only a complete loony would complain about someone making their bike more theft-resistant for them IMHO.
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