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Thats not entirely fair to say you'll get batterred. Boxing, like any other sport has to cater for all comers. If you don't wawnt to fight you won't have too. But if you do then you stand a high chance of a few good thumps
Kickboxing is full contact. There are 3 types of fighting in competitions....points, semi contact and full. Points is about getting a strike into your oppoent. It looks gay but once you get to the professional level then the strikes are incredibly hard. My mate has broken many opponents jaws and ribs whilst getting a point in.
Semi contact is like free flow fighting, but your just trying to strike your opponent and dominate the fight. Power and force is not the empasis and you can get deducted for being to rough...however I've known people to get knocked out and lose even though the knock out is technically wrong since it shows lack of control.
Full contact is just that. numerous rounds of various times. both fighters have to throw at least three kicks but other than that kO or points wins. Very rough and the fighters often look like they've never set foot inside a kickboxing gym as if looks like a brawl. |
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Ah dont worry can take a beating. Been stabbed, kicked in the head, bottled. Sure i can cope And then perhaps learn how to give a beating back instead of it being the usual head butt. ____________________ JACK, MISS YOU LOADS YOU LEGEND. |
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I agree. Being taught a handful of moves and repitive practise of them is far more effective than learning hundreds of dead techniques  |
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Depends really, ninjitsu (well the fighting aspect) is perfect if you want to WIN at a fight, full of dirty sneeky tricks.. some kungfu is good for this too, but wont get you fit nearly as fit as something like tkd or kickboxing.. Wing chun is also designed for close quater combat with crappy footings e.t.c.
TKD does vary from one federation to the next, in good and bad ways, some blackbelts were pretty useless in some clubs i'd seen tbh, i'd imagine this is the same elsewhere..
Lots to choose from, find out what nearby (phoneing the closest martial arts supply shop is the best bet for that) ____________________ >RidingSkills<->Tech Tips<->MyBikes< |
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Wing Chun , or Hakka southern Mantis , very ugly to watch used in fights very effective, I took up Wing Chun last year but quit due to moving , uses 99.9% hands which is good cus my legs are awful short. ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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This is a JKD forum I post on, but I can't link to it as you need to be a member to view it! Very interesting.
| Quote: | Martial Artists' Moves Revealed in "Fight Science" Lab
Yancey Hall
for National Geographic News
August 14, 2006
They can crush a stack of concrete slabs with a bare fist, walk with catlike balance on a bamboo pole, and generate deadly kicks and punches at lightning-fast speeds.
Real-life martial artists have long defied what many people would think is humanly possible, and their seemingly superpowered abilities have inspired generations of movies and television shows.
For the upcoming television special, Fight Science, researchers used high-tech equipment to put real martial artists to the test. The feature will air on August 20 on the National Geographic Channel.
(National Geographic News is a division of the National Geographic Society, which is part owner of the National Geographic Channel.)
The action took place inside a specially designed film studio that is part laboratory and part dojo, a school for training in the various arts of self-defense.
Here world champion martial artists from diverse disciplines were pitted against a customized crash-test dummy outfitted with impact sensors.
The sensors—along with infrared, high-speed, and high-definition motion-capture cameras—allowed scientists to measure and map the speed, force, range, and impact of the fighter's techniques.
The result is an unprecedented look at how martial artists generate the power and speed behind each move.
Inside the Dojo
Randy Kelly, vice president of sales and business development for Robert A. Denton, Inc., knows a thing or two about crash-test dummies.
His company is one of the world's largest suppliers of sophisticated force-measurement devices for vehicle safety tests.
Kelly was in charge of conducting tests at the Fight Science studio and supplied the project with a $150,000 (U.S.) government-certified crash-test dummy.
"The dummy used for the experiment was one typically used in the automotive industry," Kelly said.
These so-called load-cell sensors were placed in strategic areas on the dummy, such as the upper neck, lower neck, chest, and knee.
Another device called a potentiometer was placed in the dummy's chest to measure displacement caused by a frontal strike.
The fighters themselves were fitted with reflective markers and sensors in their shoes that allowed scientists to track and create computer animations of how the body generates each attack.
More Powerful Than a Sledgehammer
In one experiment, experts in karate, boxing, kung fu, and tae kwon do all took turns striking the dummy in the face.
The researchers were surprised to find that boxing is the fighting style capable of delivering the most force in a single punch.
Boxer Steve Petramale delivered about 1,000 pounds (453.6 kilograms) of impact force, the equivalent of swinging a sledgehammer into someone's face.
His punch, the sensors revealed, starts in the feet and travels up the legs through the hips to the chest and shoulders, multiplying in force as it travels up the body.
(See photo stills and computer images of the fighters from Fight Science.)
Strong as a Car Crash
But martial artists are perhaps best known for being able to deliver devastating kicks.
To test this power, Kelly had the participants use their unique styles to land kicks on the dummy's chest.
The tae kwon do spinning back kick delivered more than 1,500 pounds (680.4 kilograms) of force, while the kung fu flying double kick produced about 1,000 pounds (453.6 kilograms) of force.
But the undisputed winner practices a discipline known for its ability to deliver a knockout: Muay Thai, also known as Thai boxing.
(Related news: "Thai 'Ladyboy' Kickboxer Is Gender-Bending Knockout" [March 2004].)
Melchor Menor, a former two-time Muay Thai world champion, uses a simple technique to incapacitate his opponents: a knee to the chest at close quarters.
Menor himself was surprised at how powerful this move can be.
"I wasn't expecting to have the highest force. When he said the power of the knee [kick] was equal to the power of a 35-mile-an-hour [56.3-kilometer-an-hour] car crash, it was humbling."
The displacement sensor in the dummy's chest measured nearly two inches (five centimeters) of chest compression from Menor's knee strike.
Like the boxer's punch, the energy from this kick starts from the feet and moves up to the knee. The blow is delivered to the soft tissue below the rib cage while Menor holds his opponent's head stationary.
The ribs are driven backward through the lungs and solar plexus, a cluster of nerve cells behind the human stomach that controls some organ functions.
Truly a death blow, Menor's knee kick can cause internal bleeding and even cardiac arrest.
Faster Than a Snake
According to an old legend, martial artists should strike with the speed of a snake.
But at an average of eight to ten feet (two-and-a-half to three meters) a second, a snake strike would seem beyond the reach of even the fastest fighter.
As it turns out, a kung fu punch can give even the fastest snake a run for its money (related: see videos, photos, and news articles about the real-life abilities of snakes).
Alex Huynh is a three-time gold medalist in wushu, a style of kung fu. He's also made in his mark in Hollywood as a stunt double in movies like Pirates of the Caribbean.
For the experiment Huynh's strikes were measured by an instrument called an accelerometer.
The results of the test showed an astonishing speed of more than 40 feet (12.2 meters) a second.
"We martial artists knew we had the ability to hit hard and fast, but I never thought I could hit four times faster than a snake," Huynh said.
Huynh is also quick to point out that no one style is best.
"As the show demonstrates, each individual school has strengths," he said. "The goal is to find one that is the best for you."
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