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 JodieWodie Reflective Banana

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 Posted: 08:57 - 09 Sep 2006 Post subject: Parking a car with no tax |
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Can I park a newly aquired vehicle outside my house, on a public road, if it has no tax
I wouldn't have thought so, but OH is saying it will be okay, and we have been arguing about it non-stop
I have log bok, MOT, and am transfering my insurance over to the new car today, but obv won't have the cert until Monday (hopefully) which means I can THEN purchase my tax disc
I also have a pub car park near me I could park on if necessary
Anyone ?
Thanks in advance
JO x ____________________ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow" |
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What he said.
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Thanks for that
SO, if I park it in the car park will that be okay ?
As it is technically private land...
I am guessing the insurance company can't fax you a copy of the cover note or anything?  ____________________ Courage doesn't always roar. Sometimes courage is the quiet voice at the end of the day saying, "I will try again tomorrow" |
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Legally, no. The safest thing to do is put it in the pub car park.
Some insurance companies let you print off the form online and yes, you could have it faxed (though the post office might not accept it if it's on that dodgy curly style fax paper).
Alternatively, you can try to buy the tax disk online as the companies are linked to the DVLA by computer, but it sometimes takes a day or two to go through. Although there is an offence of not displaying a tax disk, you're unlikely to get spotted if you're all OK on the computers.
You might also find out that it is still be taxed (if the guy who sold it has claimed a refund on unused tax, it might not yet have been processed). Obviously if it's simply run out, it won't be.
You can check it out here. ____________________ Current bike: Kawasaki Z750S |
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A car can be insured, you can insure a vehicle for any driver. When you insure a vehicle, that registration number shows on the Insurance Database as being insured, which is why you can't hold 2 policies on one vehicle, again showing the insurance is for the vehicle not the driver.
Personal insurance cover corresponds to your cover to ride other vehicles, depending on insurance company that other vehicle may or may not need to have a policy active on it by someone else. However if you are not in control of the vehicle at the time of the accident, if it has no policy active on it, you cannot use your TPO on other vehicles cover to cover the vehicle, the holding the keys issue is a bit daft but it's only used if your near the vehicle with your keys and are drunk usually.
Either way for a car to be parked on a road it must be Taxed and insured directly by someone so that it's registered on the Insurance Database. As for MOT i'm not sure, because if your car fails it's MOT and you only have on street parking there's nothing you can do, there's no SORN equivalent for MOTs so I'd imagine it doesn't need MOT to be parked on the road, only driven. |
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 JodieWodie Reflective Banana

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Thanks for all the replies
In the end I have parked the car a few houses up in the pub car park
It should be okay there. I don't think there is a function on or anything
It is near the road anyway, so it is not a secluded place. I used to park my old car there now and then if outside my house was full
My insurance said a cover note should be with me on Monday and I will get my tax asap
The car has an MOT, so that is okay
I though about applying for the tax online, but you can't do it if you are a new owner
I also thought about asking the insurance to fax my note, but the PO won't take faxes as proof of ins
Oh well,.. we shall see
There is a lil note stuffed in the tax disc holder just saying the car is mot'ed, insured and has only just been purchased ..tax will be got asap Monday (just in case a busy body decides the car is abandoned)
Touch wood, all should be well
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| Phoenix wrote: |
A car can be insured, you can insure a vehicle for any driver.
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But there is always a policyholder. A vehicle cannot be a policyholder.
| Phoenix wrote: |
When you insure a vehicle, that registration number shows on the Insurance Database as being insured, which is why you can't hold 2 policies on one vehicle, again showing the insurance is for the vehicle not the driver.
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You can have 2 policies on one vehicle. Stop talking drivel. What you can't do is insure a vehicle twice for theft and claim on both policies if its stolen.
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Personal insurance cover corresponds to your cover to ride other vehicles, depending on insurance company that other vehicle may or may not need to have a policy active on it by someone else.
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Read your policy in other words.
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However if you are not in control of the vehicle at the time of the accident, if it has no policy active on it, you cannot use your TPO on other vehicles cover to cover the vehicle, the holding the keys issue is a bit daft but it's only used if your near the vehicle with your keys and are drunk usually.
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If holding the keys means you are in control of a vehicle according to a road traffic act then you are in control of the vehicle.
My TPO policy allows me to drive other vehicles as long as I have the owners permission. Read your policy, most Norwich union policies over 350cc allow this.
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Either way for a car to be parked on a road it must be Taxed and insured directly by someone so that it's registered on the Insurance Database.
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No it doesn't. There is nothing in any of the road traffic acts to support this. When I have a trade policy none of my vehicles bought after the policy is started appear on the database.
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As for MOT i'm not sure, because if your car fails it's MOT and you only have on street parking there's nothing you can do, there's no SORN equivalent for MOTs so I'd imagine it doesn't need MOT to be parked on the road, only driven. |
A vehicle on the road requires insurance, VED and MOT. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 20 years, 40 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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