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UrbanRacer
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: safer bullets Reply with quote
Lead free bullets

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Included in the list of tree-hugging hardware is the "lead-free" bullet, offering clear advantages over the traditional variety which "can harm the environment and pose a risk to people".


https://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/18/lead_free_bullets/
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DevilWAH
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have used lead free airrifle pellets for years.

(althoguh i do mostly use lead ones lol, the lead free ones are crap!)
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PostPosted: 15:48 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
i think you missed the point or the joke
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PostPosted: 15:55 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
no no it's ok.. I saw that Wink
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PostPosted: 18:04 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
It's a bit like sterilising the needle used for administering a lethal injection, I guess Rolling Eyes Question
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Lead free cartridges were frowned upon when I used to use my shotgun as the shot would scratch the barrel to buggery after a period of time, whereas lead doesn't.

Although, in respect to using them in guns, then, I suppose it makes bugger all difference to the person getting shot. Laughing
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 20 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Well at least it looking up Thumbs Up eventually any war that anyone else is thinking of starting will never get passed the health and safety checks.....
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PostPosted: 17:25 - 21 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Does this mean they will ban Nuclear bombs. They do huge damage to the environment.
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 21 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Off on a bit of a tangent one of the safest bullets to be shot with is a full metal jacket (or see here). That's because it's more likely to pass through rather than fragmenting (but range is important factor). From a military view this is desirable as it creates casualties (wounded takes 2 other people to carry, dead need zero).

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Does this mean they will ban Nuclear bombs. They do huge damage to the environment.
As far as I'm aware no nuclear devices have been exploded since 1998 (last being tests by India and Pakistan). So that's a good thing then Confused

Just some thoughts.
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PostPosted: 21:27 - 21 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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BAE Systems' intiative is backed by the Ministry of Defence which has, rather spendidly, "proposed quieter warheads to reduce noise pollution and grenades that produce less smoke".



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PostPosted: 22:06 - 21 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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The anti-arms lobby has reacted with predictable derision. Symon Hill of Campaign Against Arms Trade slammed the propsals as "ridiculous", adding: "BAE is determined to try to make itself look ethical, but they make weapons to kill people



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PostPosted: 01:13 - 22 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatters wrote:
Fu*king hate these people, they view the world through rose tinted glasses. Rolling Eyes


Some of us would rather just not have wars, or at least not get involved when other people have them. Surely thats not rose tinted, thats common sense.
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 22 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
robby wrote:
tatters wrote:
Fu*king hate these people, they view the world through rose tinted glasses. Rolling Eyes


Some of us would rather just not have wars, or at least not get involved when other people have them. Surely thats not rose tinted, thats common sense.






Its common sense for a state to have the means to defend its self, unless every other state shared the same view of peace which is never going to happen every state needs the means to defend its self or they risk being walked over by aggresive states.

Having the view that this country should,nt have armed forces or a arms industry is completey foolish.


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"Igitur qui desiderat pacem, praeparet bellum."

"if you want peace prepare for war"

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PostPosted: 03:54 - 22 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I think the point of the lead free rounds is for the safety of the people handling them, rather than the people "receiving" them...
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 22 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
and the ground they thud into to reduce leaching.
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Robby
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 22 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
tatters wrote:
Its common sense for a state to have the means to defend its self, unless every other state shared the same view of peace which is never going to happen every state needs the means to defend its self or they risk being walked over by aggresive states.

Having the view that this country should,nt have armed forces or a arms industry is completey foolish.


The means to defend itself I can agree with - the absolute minimum army, navy, and air force required to defend the country.

The means to fight a war 6000 miles away in a country 99% of the people from this country have never been to, thats not necessary. In fact its a waste in every sense of the word.
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