MOBOs... racist? (yes)

[cqueen]

Music awards for black people, regardless of the musics origin.

Yes SOME white people have won awards, very few but hey they need a token white guy to win otherwise people would get suspicious!

What annoys me is that 'corrin bailey rae' gets nominated for 3 awards when there are loads of more talented white females who sing the same style of music but dont get nominated.

They say its about the musics origin. What a load of crap. Beyonce'? what orgin is that? she sings pop music! just like britney spears!

[Whosthedaddy]

Your preaching to the choir
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[palmer]

music awards are crap, i never watch them. i dont want to be told what is 'good music' ...

[Resurrection]

Funnily enough i was discussing this about 20 mins ago

If there was an awards show just for white people (MOWO) there would be hell to pay.

Res
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[Dragonfly]

Very good point it is racist, if you had a white singers award i bet there would be a lot of people sparking up about that now.
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[Dom]

Totally agree. I would love to see someone start the 'MOWOs' just for the public reaction.
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[killa]

Reminds me of playground joke.....

"What do you call a black man in a field?"


"The good old days"


When were the MOBO's invented?
A long long time after black people were recognised as people and that they had talent, i don't see why they have a special awards show for them, IMO it makes it look like someone is still holding them back.
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[cqueen]

[mr jamez]

It is not excluding people who are not black, it is simply a award ceremony which caters for music with 'black' roots. White people are regularly nominated and win awards. Something like the 'country music awards' is music of white origin.

If the MOBOS prevented whites/asians or whoever from taking part then I would understand why this topic pops up every year. I guess it stems from what 'we' might perceive black peoples reaction to be towards a ceremony that contained the word 'white'.
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[mr jamez]

"Music of black origin" is a simple statement of fact. Rap, hip-hop etc was all pioneered by black people. No problem there as far as I can see. As for it being blatently biased towards black people, can't really comment as I only watched it once and like all other award ceremonys was crap.

White artists are totally out numbered in these genres so I don't find it suprising that more blacks are nominated and win. Would you ever see many, if any black people at the country music awards? is that racist? no because its music of white origin and something they are less involved in. Say in 5 years we still only see a tiny fraction of white/asian or whatever winning then it could be seen as prejudice, as right now there aren't any in the mainstream.

I don't see the point of going mental just because someone mentioned race.
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[8316]

I think if we started MOWO-there'd be rioting.
i live in an area where whites are the minority(NE london), the house would probably be burnt down and then i'd be stabbed!

the MOBO's are racist and i can't stand it.

black people also have their own "officially black" newspaper-but what happens if i wanted an all white paper? I'd be butchered and hung most likely!
there is so much racist stuff like this nowadays against whites..grr.
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[cqueen]

I can see what you are saying Mr James. You're saying 'how can it be racist? its the MUSIC of black origin, not the people'.

Well unfortuantly that is not the case. Like I said at the begining, the origin of the music has nothing to do with it, otherwise 'katie meula' (sp) who sold by far the most albums in the UK last year, sings the same style of music as 'corin bailey rae', gets no nomination.

How is that fair? the same with Beyonce, since when was pop music from a black origin? you might aswell put half the people in the singles chart up for a MOBO in that case.

...but most pop singers are white so they make an exception for beyonce.

[mr jamez]

[Bendy]

Didn't Mick Hucknall win one a few years back too? For his contribution to soul music, a style which is of black origin?


And he's ginger.

[Suitor_Stu]

seriously though, where the hell is the Blues category?! Isnt that the most definitive 'music of black origin'?

Also theyve taken away jazz this year too - but no big loss really, since it was prob just gona go to Jamie Cullum or Amy Winehouse anyway!

Not that im that bothered about it anyway. To my mind, the only awards show worth anything are the Mercurys (any show that can persuade Thom Yorke to - not only - attend, but give a solo piano performance is good by my books!) and even they have somewhat 'ropey' choices sometimes!

[Bendy]

They're all just an excuse for lots of record company ligging and are entirely fixed anyway.

Sponsor an award, get some tables. The more you pay, the more of your artists will win.

[akaDAVE]

The whole concept of music awards is shite anyway and the MOBOs are even more riduculous.

'black' music these days is fully integrated into mainstream pop music - see beyonce and even one time 'gangsta' rappers JayZ and Snoop Dogg dancing with Justin timberlake.
They live alongside indie music and dance in the charts.
'Black' music is not a specialist genre that needs supporting with it's own set of awards. Maybe Jazz or classical yes but not 'black music'.
It also does imply that there is some kind of repression that the music needs to be supported against.

All these MOBO awards do is help give a bit of credibility to acts that are styled and manufactured in the same way as every other pop singer/group.
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[Resurrection]

[craigie b]

The MOBO's are designed to give the black community a reason to feel as if they have progressed in multicultural britian. I bet if you peel the oprganised layers far enough back though that its white people funding the event and white people ultimately profiting from the awards.

Its more a reflection of the insecurities felt by coloured people, that the award has to be branded black. I don;t think its rascist, more that its a sad reflecttion of how the black issue is misunderstood.

The suggestion of rascism is wonderful marketing since it generates far more interest than if it was just a regular music award (which it is, in reality).

It would have been interesting to hear Malcolm X's views on this.

[craigie b]

You could further say calling it the MOBO's is simply a means to make the whites feel better about himself. Its like saying, look, we're so we acceptance of other cultures we let coloured people have their own awards. So we can feel better about ourselves.

LOL, at least that would have been Malcolm X's view.

[cqueen]

I'd rather have someone create the MOWOs and watch the fall out.