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PostPosted: 11:16 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Crahs musroom or bars Reply with quote
Which ones are better? I want to get some for my Bandit 600 but i'm not sure whether to go for mushrooms or bars? I can't help thinking bars would provide more protection?

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PostPosted: 11:18 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
The Bars look more solid, to my mind the mushrooms are designed with fully faired sports bikes in mind. If you dont mind the look of them go with the bars i would say.
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PostPosted: 13:20 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Bars do provide more protection, wont look as nice but will be more likely to stop damage in a drop/slide situiation.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Either way get the best you can afford or bars will just fold and I have seen people buy good looking mushrooms that you can flex with your hand and will pop off in an accident. Wink
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Renntec do good engine bars, i would say go for them, mushrooms are really for faried sports bike that can't have the bars, they are designed well and my divvy when on its side the rear tyre and bars were the only bits that touched the ground Razz
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PostPosted: 19:04 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
its a bandit 6 the replacement bits are cheaper than the protection.
drop it a few times then just replace the scuffed bits when its time to sell.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 23 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
vee wrote:
Renntec do good engine bars, i would say go for them, mushrooms are really for faried sports bike that can't have the bars, they are designed well and my divvy when on its side the rear tyre and bars were the only bits that touched the ground Razz


I don't really agree, I fit R&Gs on my naked bikes, they save a lot of damage when you fall off, just the sticky out bits (bars, footpegs) the tank etc tend not to be damaged.
Will engine bars reduce ground clearance? Also bungs tend to be located roughly on the bike's point of balance, so all the weight of the bike rests on them as the bike slides. Bars would support the front of the bike (but handlebars etc would still be damaged) and there would still be a fair bit of weight on the back of the bike, resulting in damage to cans / seat unit etc.
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PostPosted: 00:09 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zimbo wrote:
vee wrote:
Renntec do good engine bars, i would say go for them, mushrooms are really for faried sports bike that can't have the bars, they are designed well and my divvy when on its side the rear tyre and bars were the only bits that touched the ground Razz


I don't really agree, I fit R&Gs on my naked bikes, they save a lot of damage when you fall off, just the sticky out bits (bars, footpegs) the tank etc tend not to be damaged.
Will engine bars reduce ground clearance? Also bungs tend to be located roughly on the bike's point of balance, so all the weight of the bike rests on them as the bike slides. Bars would support the front of the bike (but handlebars etc would still be damaged) and there would still be a fair bit of weight on the back of the bike, resulting in damage to cans / seat unit etc.

R&G's are good at what they do, engine bars dont reduce ground clearence and as i said my particular ones meant nothing except the bars and rear tyre touched the ground, dont know how much either would save in a high speed spill but the engine bars are there to protect, well the engine in that event , you have to accept that if you bin it at speed somethings gonna be broken.
If your that worried theres a kit of bars that surround bits of your bike and act like a roll cage Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 00:32 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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R&G's are good at what they do, engine bars dont reduce ground clearence and as i said my particular ones meant nothing except the bars and rear tyre touched the ground, dont know how much either would save in a high speed spill but the engine bars are there to protect, well the engine in that event , you have to accept that if you bin it at speed somethings gonna be broken.
If your that worried theres a kit of bars that surround bits of your bike and act like a roll cage Rolling Eyes


True enough, just in my experience it's not the engine that tends to get damaged in a spill, it's usually tank, seat unit, exhaust, and of course pegs and bars / mirrors / brake and clutch furniture. Some of this will get damaged in any event, whether you fit engine bars or crash bungs, my point was that in most cases crash bungs will do as good a job at protecting the bike, and perhaps a better job in the event of an off at any sort of speed. I can see the point of engine bars on some bikes, such as BMW parallel twins where the cylinders stick out, I would personally consider bungs to be better suited to bikes where the engine is contained within the frame. Just a personal opinion of course.
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PostPosted: 08:06 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zimbo wrote:

True enough, just in my experience it's not the engine that tends to get damaged in a spill, I would personally consider bungs to be better suited to bikes where the engine is contained within the frame. Just a personal opinion of course.


I guess you've either been lucky or I'm just unlucky but in the majority of cases the engine has always ended up with some form of damage, even if it was just a few scratches. Don't think I've ever damaged a tank though. I haven't seen many engines that actually sits completely within the frame.

I'd be more interested in protecting the engine, as long as the frame and engine are ok everything else is easy to replace.
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PostPosted: 09:13 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
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Don't think I've ever damaged a tank though.

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PostPosted: 19:41 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
marki wrote:
majority of cases the engine has always ended up with some form of damage, even if it was just a few scratches. Don't think I've ever damaged a tank though.


I've never damaged an engine, but then I've never binned anything more than 1 cylinder wide. I made a mess of the tank of wee 125, mostly with my right knee, which stopped the tank hitting the ground. The tank ended up with a huge dent in the RHS, and a smaller dent in the LHS, presumably from the left hand bar.

The main reason I've not damaged an engine is because the footpegs have always stayed intact and held the crankcase off the ground. A sportier machine with flimsy alloy jobbies would tend to snap those off and land on the crankcase.

A crankcase is probably cheaper than a fairing to replace.
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PostPosted: 19:49 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I vote bars,

not quite stock for sports bikes, but they do save a lot more damage than bungs.. I'd have bars on a naked bike all the time.. and on sports bike too Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:04 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
engine bars on a tidy bike just scream "look at me i'm going to fall off soon"
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
To be honest, the only bikes which really need engine bars are things with pots stuck out sideways. If you drop the weight of a CX500/ Moto Guzzi/ BMW/ Goldwing on it's cylinder head at speed, that is going to be very expensive.
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 24 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I had R & G's on my bros and they saved so much of the bike, tank, engine, rear end etc when i crashed. I never had the option of bars and the ones on the bandit look a little low IMO to protect much more than the bottom of the engine .
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PostPosted: 00:11 - 25 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Do you think the 1200 bandit engine bars would fit the 600?

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PostPosted: 02:34 - 25 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
quik_d wrote:
Do you think the 1200 bandit engine bars would fit the 600?

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I'd take a wild guess at no, since that's a very large difference in the size of the engine. Confused
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