honda cbr 400. nc23 vs nc29

code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

ok i just won a 1990 honda cbr 400 from ebay and its the tri arm.
im trying 2 get an insurance quote for it but i cant insure it as a 1990 as when i select 1990 it gives me the honda cbr 400 nc29 witch is the gularm version i think and when i select 89 it can chose ether the nc23 or nc 29.
so my question is have they made the nc29 as a triarm as well?
thanks
soz for bad spelling am just so happy i got or will have a 400 soon Very Happy

Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

Some grey imports have age related registrations that arn't 100% accurate, depending sometimes on when it was first registered abroad on the foreign logbook, same as you get bikes here kicking around in dealers for a year or two after they have been updated. NC23 (Tri arm) ran 88-89, then became NC29 (Gull / Dull Arm Very Happy

) 90 - 97 (or therabouts). Not much to choose between them really, just down to styling preferences
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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

There is quite a lot of difference between the Tri arm (NC23) and the Gull arm (NC29). As the name suggests there is the small issue of the completely differently shaped swing arm. Wink

The bike may very well have been registered in this country in 1990, but it will be a physically older bike.

Your best bet is to telephone the insurance companies directly and explain that it is an imported bike.
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code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

ok thanks.
did honda ever make a cbr 400 in the uk or r they all grey imports?
thanks

Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

There are parallel and grey imports.

Parallel are those imported by a dealer, grey were not.
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Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

[quote]There are parallel and grey imports.

Parallel are those imported by a dealer, grey were not.

Wrong. Parellel are those machines which are imported from other markets but are machines which are also sold as official UK models, usually things like CBR600's and 900's with odd paint jobs and lights that dip the wrong way, KMH speedos etc. Tended to be cheaper than UK bikes so upset the UK importers lots.

Greys are those machines imported which are not otherwise sold into the UK market, typically trick 400's and 250's usually only intended for "other ares" (Japan and Asia) markets.

Yes the NC23 and 29 are different bikes but the end result isn't that different, same power, both very good chassis, good build quality.
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code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

ok well im buying it from a dealer for £640. its a H reg
here is a pic of it. wot u think?
https://www.integratus.net/bike_images/4.jpg
https://img153.imageshack.us/img153/8402/ce1brl1.jpg
thanks

Blau Zedong · Banned Joined: 26 Jun 2006 Karma :

Price sounds good, obviously It's hard to see everything from a picture. I'm going to think the worst and say the bike has been crashed, hence the non standard paint on everything bar the tank. On a 15 year old bike this is to be expected, but it warrants a good check of everything else.
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code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

well i might take out a hpi check well i still can because i bought it from ebay but i dont know wot i whant 2 do Laughing

Blackrhythms · Scooby Slapper Joined: 18 Sep 2006 Karma :

Hey good choice of bike - I bought one myself in May of this year! Thumbs Up

As has been said, the main difference between the two was the design of the swing arm - the Tri-arm has a heavy triangulated swing arm and the Gull-arm has an elbow bend in it to accomodate the exhaust pipe without compromising ground clearance! Both were based on the racing machines of the previous years to their manufacture. The Tri-arm was (obviously) first with the J and K models and then the Gull-arm as the L model and the Gull-arm has the 17" 6 spoke wheels front and rear, and the Tri-arm has the smaller 3 spoke wheels.

Now my bike was registered in this country in 1990, as the nc23 Tri-arm if that's any help to you - even though production of the nc29 Gull-arm began in 1990. Mind you the previous owner of my bike put the 17" Gull-arm wheels on mine and they look smart and the bike handles very well with them too! Thumbs Up

Best of luck and have loads of fun with it - I know I am with mine!! Laughing

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0ddball · World Chat Champion Joined: 15 Jul 2005 Karma :

Pm phantomtek, he has a couple of hpi checks available for £5. I doubt it will be recorded coming from a dealer, they normally hpi them themselves before taking them in. You could send him a message to ask if it is, by law he doesn't have to mention it in the ad but he does have to tell you if you ask.

It will have been crashed and thrashed though, that's only to be expected for a bike of that age and price. I also wouldn't take too much notice of the milage reading, buy on condition. But for the money you can't really expect too much. As long as it rides straight and doesn't have any really obvious faults it will be ok.

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code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

ok just called the shop up and payed for the bike and my dad payed for the 33bhp kit which was £195.25 incl fitting and vat ect. picking up the bike on sat and they will mot it on sat and they just fitted a new back tyre to the bike. im so happy Very Happy

thanks for all the info guys

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Wave2k · G's Stalker Joined: 06 Apr 2004 Karma :

I had a 1988 Tri-arm, great bike, reliable however the fairing are poorly designed and its quite hard to find parts for them.
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craigs23 · Mr Muscle Joined: 08 Jun 2005 Karma :

Difficulty sourcing parts for 400greybikes is a myth. David Silvers can get hold of pretty much standard Honda part, Wemoto are good at sourcing servicable items, and there are a fair few companies who can supply more trick items if you look a little harder. If in doubt, try Ebay or 400greybike.

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Itchy · Super Spammer Joined: 07 Apr 2005 Karma :

You can always get aftermarket ones change the look though £300 for the front bit inc wiring lights etc, and side panels , £150 for the rear bits.
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code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

theres a guy on ebay from hong kong i think and his selling new pannels painted with stickers for about £150 bidding and £100 post but they r not original honda ones they r like copy ones ect

code guru · Brolly Dolly Joined: 25 Jan 2006 Karma :

ok thanks to phantomtek i did a hpi check on my bike and its come back with the following info.
it says that the vin is correct with the bikes reg
make: honda
model : unknown
engine no: not telling u Laughing

engine: 398cc
first registered: 21/03/1997
year of manufacture : 1990

not recorded as currently stolen on thr police national computer
not a high risk of fraud or theft
bike imported (i knew that)
no insurance write-off details found

so it looks gd then

ok question lol
im trying to get a quote with bike insurer (thats wot the site is called) and it asks for Motorcycle Registration Date. do i enter 21/03/1997 or 1990?
thanks