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RealNinja
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PostPosted: 16:51 - 30 Sep 2006    Post subject: Donations Reply with quote

Bit of a strange question, morally, this one.....

Following an appeal in our local paper, me and the missus have decided that we would like to take on two rescue cats.

We have been to see some cats and have settled on a brother and sister that are being homing currently in a cattery just 5 minutes from where we live.

We have contacted the RSPCA (it was their appeal) and we have had our home visit to esure that we aren't going to eat the animals or do weird things to them.

So far, so good, until yesterday when I spoke to the woman from the RSPCA and she mentioned that they expectt some form of donation towards their charity for the cats, which is fair enough.

However the RSPCA want £40 per cat for the privilidge of taking two cats off their hands......
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My question is this...
Can they actually demand £80 for two moggies? Surely a donation is a donation and they would just have to put up with whatever we deem suitable for their animals? We have since been offered other cats from different rescue sources for next to nothing.
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PostPosted: 16:56 - 30 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd check if the other cats come with all their jabs and that they've been "done". I think that this is what a lot of the donation is for. We got our cat for about £20 but then had to cough up on vet bills.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 30 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is part of our problem, we know one of them has been done, but as they are rescue cats and have no history, nobody can tell us whether they are up to date with their jabs or anything.

It just seems a bit odd that they can specify an amount they want you to donate.....
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PostPosted: 18:12 - 30 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most 'charrideeees' ask for a fixed minimum donation these days
It helps to cover their costs for the vets, food etc..

They will have checked the cats fully, for temperament, disease etc..
They will have had their jabs as they are with other cats in the facility, and they will (almost certain) be neutered
I think it is policy
The last thing they want is more unwanted kittens running about !!

I think £40 per cat sounds a lot, but in reality, if you were to get a free cat, (or even pay a tenner donation), you would then have to take it to a vet for the jabs etc... £20? plus per cat

If you really like the cats I would jump at the chance to own them. Poor things. I wish I could take another pet on at the minute
We can't walk in our house for animals !! Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 30 Sep 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

JodieWodie wrote:
I wish I could take another pet on at the minute
We can't walk in our house for animals !! Laughing


What if you were to stack them? I'm sure that would free up some room for more!
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PostPosted: 02:11 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sometimes the 'suggested donation' is a way round certain laws. If the charity was seen to be selling cats rather than rehousing them it might negate their charity status.

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PostPosted: 14:39 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's also to make sure you really want them. Some fvcking idiots buy a pet because their spoilt little brat wants one this week. Next week they can't be arsed changing the litter/feeding etc, and the next thing is they're booted out, or worse... If you like them, hand over the £80 and come away feeling alot better about yourself...Smile
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PostPosted: 15:12 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It does seem something of a piss-take when you consider that you can get kittens for free and you are offering to take on adult cats.

It's probably to weed out anyone without the means to look after them properly.

Mind you, the RSPCA and I don't see eye to eye on many subjects.
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PostPosted: 18:14 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

We got given a cat off my mums friend for free, came with his own bed, brush, food bowls and a full service history and is allergy free (no nuts)

Looks like your getting ripped off. Neutral
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PostPosted: 18:18 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The RSPCA have things to pay for, like vans, advertising, food etc. We used to get our cats from places like Cats Protection League, who also ask for a donation - but its your choice. I think my mum took down a whole load of tinned food...at least that way you know how your money is being spent - rather than on administration costs.
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PostPosted: 19:02 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
We got given a cat off my mums friend for free, came with his own bed, brush, food bowls and a full service history and is allergy free (no nuts)

Looks like your getting ripped off. Neutral

Very harsh. It's to stop retarded scumbags who want a cat 'this week' - Makes sure you want it. We had a dog that had mongrel puppies once (Jack russel + Heinz) and we wouldn't let them go for less than £20 - not for the money, but to make sure pond-scum don't buy 'em

What better place than RSPCA to buy from?
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PostPosted: 19:45 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I would have thought you average person that just 'wants a cat' would be getting a kitten rather than a 'rescued' animal from such a center that visits your home first.

Seems a bit iffy if they actually do want to re-home these animals.

Probably worth checking up what they have had done and what that would cost - and maybe looking at other companies charities that do such things.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

froggeh wrote:
dodsi wrote:
We got given a cat off my mums friend for free, came with his own bed, brush, food bowls and a full service history and is allergy free (no nuts)

Looks like your getting ripped off. Neutral

Very harsh. It's to stop retarded scumbags who want a cat 'this week' - Makes sure you want it. We had a dog that had mongrel puppies once (Jack russel + Heinz) and we wouldn't let them go for less than £20 - not for the money, but to make sure pond-scum don't buy 'em

What better place than RSPCA to buy from?


No thats not harsh.

This cat is about 5 years old and the other owners did not want him anymore (my mums friend) so we took him in as we used to have a cat that lived to 18 years old and she died and we liked having a cat about the place.

This one when we got him was called mercury so I call him Fred now because I would sound a right pratt shouting "meercuurryyy" out of the back door when we call him "freddy" has a much better ring to it.

The cat is very happy with us and well looked after, taking him in was not a rushed decision.

Just now I thought he was in the garden so I went to let him in, opened up the door and shouted him and he came running to me from upstairs where he was asleep.

So we are not "retarded scumbags who want a cat " we care for him and give him a good home.
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 01 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:

So we are not "retarded scumbags who want a cat " we care for him and give him a good home.


Apologies if you thought that was aimed at you... It wasn't - It's just that some people are like that. I'm just trying in my usual pissed up foot in mouth way to explain one reason why such a charge is asked for Smile
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was under the impression that the RSPCA, Cats' Protection and other similar charities undertook 'home inspections' before allowing an animal to be taken in by anyone? Thus negating the need for the 'donation' to prevent them being taken into the wrong homes...
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PostPosted: 10:33 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
I was under the impression that the RSPCA, Cats' Protection and other similar charities undertook 'home inspections' before allowing an animal to be taken in by anyone? Thus negating the need for the 'donation' to prevent them being taken into the wrong homes...


Indeed. But the people who do this are paid. Someone has to pay their wages. And again, just because a house is nice and tidy or whatever doesnt mean the folk wont dump the cat 2 weeks later.
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PostPosted: 10:36 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah but £40 for 2 weeks entertainment.

As long as you dont live in a bungalow you can just do the old "smarties tubes on legs" and make it walk down the stairs.

Kids love that sort of thing, from a parental point of view its cheaper than toys they would break in about the same amount of time.
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

get the £40 donation each put onto your short tax return (don't ask for a full one) and have it as a gift aid payment this trims a tint bit off your taxes.
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PostPosted: 13:31 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:
Froggeh, can I just say your a complete cunt.

And I hope you choke on a cat in your sleep.

Do you have a sense of humor?


Thanks. Well at least you're living up to your profile...

Why am I a cunt? Because I don't like 'jokes' about animal cruelty. Oh ok.

And it's 'you're' a complete cunt, not 'your' - learn to write. Rolling Eyes

Oh, and yes, I do have a sense of humour. You need to see how poor my riding is... I have to have a sense of humour or I'd give up. M'kay.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My understanding (from acquiring 3 cats last year) is that the RSPCA is a fixed 'fee' for them letting you help them out and take care of the cats. That said they should be neutered by the RSPCA before coming to you and I think have at least one set of jabs (but I don't think that includes the feline aids one - memory going Rolling Eyes).

Basically didn't take on cats from the RSPCA because they told us they'd do a home visit and tell us what cats we could have. IMO this was hardly fair on the kids, who we were getting them for anyhow. Besides which anything the RSPCA can't home they kill. Funny how that never makes in into their adverts isn't it Rolling Eyes

Didn't get from the Cats Protection League because they do the home visit and tell you if you're suitable and it depends on how far you're from a main road. However, they couldn't tell us what that distance was or what tey considered a main road. They also cocked up by saying we could have two and then said they'd already being reserved and we shouldn't have been told that. The kids were less than impressed, as was I. Oh, and their 'donation' was a fixed fee too.

Ended up getting a farm kitten (FYI not a good idea, flea ridden and taught to avoid humans) and another from a woman who works at a vet's and homes unwanted cats/kittens. She only asked for a donation and we happily gave her the same as we'd have paid the RSPCA as she was far nicer and welcoming to us and the children.

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PostPosted: 15:13 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

froggeh wrote:
dodsi wrote:
Froggeh, can I just say your a complete cunt.

And I hope you choke on a cat in your sleep.

Do you have a sense of humor?


Thanks. Well at least you're living up to your profile...

Why am I a cunt? Because I don't like 'jokes' about animal cruelty. Oh ok.

And it's 'you're' a complete cunt, not 'your' - learn to write. Rolling Eyes



They are just jokes, I mean nothing by them foo' perhaps you should come and visit my house? You could see if my cat is a happy chappy or not? because obviously if I joke about putting smarties tubes on his legs and make him walk down the stairs I must do that for real. Perhaps you could even rescue him off us as we are obviously very cruel to him.

Tit.

And if the only way you think you can "win" an argument with me is by correcting my spelling/grammar then you really do not have a sense of humor.

Come on, use some wit to "win" an argument with me. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

dodsi wrote:

And if the only way you think you can "win" an argument with me is by correcting my spelling/grammar then you really do not have a sense of humor.

Come on, use some wit to "win" an argument with me. Smile



Ok dude. well. For one I have not resorted to saying you're a 'cunt' or a 'tit' - I tend not to use terms like that to people I don't know. In fact think you should talk to people on the internet as you would in real life. If you called someone a cunt to their face knowing them as well as you do me, they would more than likely lamp you one...

I don't wanna fall out over a dumbass joke you made, you caught me at a bad time on a subject I feel strongly about. I'm sure you look after your cat just fine. It's just some people don't, and I was just trying to answer the OP with a good reason for the donation...


As for using wit to win an argument, I'm sure I can think of something, but for now, why don't you 'fuck off you red-nosed bastard' Wink
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PostPosted: 12:57 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
I was under the impression that the RSPCA, Cats' Protection and other similar charities undertook 'home inspections' before allowing an animal to be taken in by anyone? Thus negating the need for the 'donation' to prevent them being taken into the wrong homes...

They didn't inspect our home when we got our cat from the CPL.
But then the worker's husband works with us, so..
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PostPosted: 11:47 - 04 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

WE have had a breakthrough with the RSPCA!

After phoning a few people around here that rescue cats and rehome them, the general concenus of opinion was that the RSPCA were ripping us off.

£45 squids is indeed their 'fixed rate' for you to take a cat off their hands, and they did say that they would 'do us a deal Rolling Eyes ' letting us have them both for £65.

However, we dicovered that if you phone them up after the home visit and when they think they have finally got rid of the cats and tell them that you are unhappy with spending so much on 2 very nice, but effectivly second hand cats( Mr. Green ) and you would prefer to make your own donation to another charity, they suddenly find a way of agreeing a price with you 'for the good of the cats' Wink Laughing

Both the CPL and the RSPCA do a home visit, the RSPCA when you have found a cat you like and the CPL straight away, and then they tell you when there are cats available.
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