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Tom_N
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PostPosted: 22:20 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: License? Reply with quote

Hi, i am just wondering. When i am 16 and get a provisional license i can get a 50cc and keep it restricted to 30moh? Also can i get a provisonal car lisence at 16 as long as i am accompanied by an adult in the car at the same time.? I am from Northern Ireland. I would appreciate any replies.
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: License? Reply with quote

Speed_Freak1711 wrote:
Hi, i am just wondering. When i am 16 and get a provisional license i can get a 50cc and keep it restricted to 30moh? Also can i get a provisonal car lisence at 16 as long as i am accompanied by an adult in the car at the same time.? I am from Northern Ireland. I would appreciate any replies.
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Dunno what the law is in Ireland but think the age at which you can drive a car on public roads in Ireland is 17 same as in England .
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PostPosted: 22:25 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: License? Reply with quote

Speed_Freak1711 wrote:
Hi, i am just wondering. When i am 16 and get a provisional license i can get a 50cc and keep it restricted to 30moh? Also can i get a provisonal car lisence at 16 as long as i am accompanied by an adult in the car at the same time.? I am from Northern Ireland. I would appreciate any replies.
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Right, as far as I can tell it's the same as the UK.

So at 16 you can only ride a moped restricted to 50 km/h

You'll have to wait until your 17 before you can take a car out on the public road.
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The Law in England is at 16 you can ride a moped that has a maximum speed of 30mph, provided that you have a provisional licence and have undertaken Compulsory Basic Training (CBT).

As far as I know, you need to be 17 until you can drive a car with L Plates, your insured for the car, and you have an experienced driver in the car with you, such as a parent.

Hope this helps

Edit: Damn you guys got there before me Tut Tut Smile
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the replies. I have mates in school who have derestricted there 50's and they do around 50mph or so. Do you reccomend this or would i get pulled for it. I would be scared of doing around 45-50 on a main road and the plice being behind me and realising. Also what would be a realistic price to spend on a fifty i only want it for the year until i am 17 and i wil move onto a 125. I wont want a really good one just one that will get me about.
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PostPosted: 22:35 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be the first to say that nobody gives a fuck about the 50kph restriction, and its dangerous, go unrestricted.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll second that, provided the 16 year old is responsible enough to use the extra speed wisely.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Don't think you have to do CBT in Northern Ireland.

Also there is no DAS, so when you pass your test its 2 years at 33bhp.

Same in the Republic.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sourcex wrote:
provided the 16 year old is responsible enough to use the extra speed wisely.


No such thing as a responsible 16 year old Wink
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PostPosted: 23:00 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aikman666 wrote:
I'll be the first to say that nobody gives a fuck about the 50kph restriction, and its dangerous, go unrestricted.

Which means riding without insurance and licence. Depending on where you ride, 50mph may well be enough: my entire commute is in a 30mph zone.
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PostPosted: 23:02 - 02 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My stepson got pulled at 43mph on his MBX50 and when they found out he was only 16 they threatened to nick him for no lisence if they caught him again.

If I recall correctly a moped has a "maximum design speed" of 30mph. Quite how you interpret this I don't know, but you could argue that it was still designed to do just 30mph except that you had modified it. Is modifying the final product the same as modifying the maximum design speed? I would say not. It was still only originally designed to go 30mph.
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PostPosted: 00:02 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
Which means riding without insurance and licence. Depending on where you ride, 50mph may well be enough: my entire commute is in a 30mph zone.


Ive never seen a concluding statement that says that you would be riding without license and insurance, ive seen alot of arguements to the contrary. And thats good that your sticking to your restriction, kudos, but some people i know came down from larger bikes and are prepared to take the risk, ive never heard of anyone being done for it.

As for the design aspect, what?! The bikes were designed with the 32mph restriction in mind yes, but not all countries have that. The bike is designed to run within its full capacity. The capacity of the engine would be smaller if they intended ALL of them to go at 50kph. These engines were designed to run at the full capability, the restriction has resulted in the terminations of some bikes such as the DT50: Because the powerband was so badly effected by the restriction it just didnt work.
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was referring to the legal definition of a moped in this country. Sorry for any confusion.

What is a moped?
A moped is a motorcycle that has the following features:

maximum design speed not exceeding 50 kilometres per hour (km/h) (about 31 miles per hour (mph)
an engine capacity no greater than 50 cc
it can be moved by pedals, if the moped was first used before 1 September 1977

https://www.direct.gov.uk/Motoring/LearnerAndNewDrivers/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopeds/RidingMotorcyclesAndMopedsArticles/fs/en?CONTENT_ID=10016249&chk=XLOdD2
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PostPosted: 00:10 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thats more like it Geri Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:17 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get your provisional at 16

You can only ride a 50cc, no CBT

You can't ride a 125 or drive a car until you're 17.
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PostPosted: 01:24 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoND wrote:
You can get your provisional at 16

You can only ride a 50cc, no CBT

You can't ride a 125 or drive a car until you're 17.


LOL, bad typo, you mean ON Razz
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PostPosted: 01:54 - 03 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nope. You don't need one in N.I
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