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Cillit-BANG
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PostPosted: 21:08 - 06 Oct 2006    Post subject: Powdercoat vs 2-pack.... Reply with quote

Hi all, what are the pro's and con's of the different paint finishes available professionally?

I've had a few bits (tank etc) sprayed up by an automotive repair shop in the past and they used 2-pack acrylic and I've been really pleased with the results, but people often seem to advise powdercoat for bike parts, why is this?

I'm looking at getting quite a few bits sprayed up so wanted to get the best results. I'm quite friendly with the repair shop guys though and get a good rate, my tank for example was £30 inc. paint.

Most parts are alloy, and would be amongst other things-

Top yoke, main frame, swing arm, clip-ons, fairing brace, fork lowers, wheels.

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Jebus
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PostPosted: 21:53 - 06 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

erm i say its because powder coating is cheap and give a good finish, 2 pak paint is better i would say, if its good stuff it rock hard and never goes dull and dont chip that easy
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PostPosted: 22:33 - 06 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi , my hubby runs a powder-coat & spraying business so here is his opinion..

hi, powder coating is very fashionable in the bike world at the moment, but for no good reason. powder coating is a tough & reasonably good looking finish for certain applications, however the drawbacks far outway the advantages i;e powder coating is not resistant to most chemicals (if you spill petrol on it, it will melt it) you can;t buff or cut/polish it like you can with a 2 pack and if it chips the weather/moisture can get under it & chase & then the coating will come off in sheets, I would only really recomend using it on frames & brackets or foot peg hangers etc because they are more industrial parts & wont chip etc the way your tin wear will. 2 pack is also very tough & durable, will give a far better finish & is what I would always go for on tin wear (especially for the prices you are talking about).powder coatig is cheaper than wet spraying, maybe this is something to do with it's popularity!
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Cillit-BANG
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PostPosted: 08:47 - 07 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ah great, I thought powdercoat may have been better!

Looks like my local boys will be getting a few more bits to spray for me. It's quite good really as they charge me their usual garage rates at about £35 an hour, so having 5 things to spray shouldn't be 5 times more expensive if you see.

I do all the preperation for them though which helps, last time I even made little stands for everything so they could just plonk it down and get on with spraying.

Out of interest is 2-pack a one coat job or do you layer it up? I presume there is a primer on bare metal first.
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PostPosted: 12:22 - 07 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cant beat tupac!

https://www.vanderzande.com/1971/tupac.jpg Laughing

i'll get my coat. and sorry i have no idea how to help with your choice! Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 17:38 - 07 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

In answer to your question

Generaly with 2-pack you would always put on an undercoat to give the best surface to your top coat.
But matalics would be base coat then lacquer & pearls can be 3 or 4 coat systems..
The best finish is in the preparation!!
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PostPosted: 22:22 - 08 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulthewitt wrote:


LOL, someone did though... Mr. Green
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Cillit-BANG
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 08 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Will 2-pack be resistant to higher temperatures? I'm looking at getting some engine casings and brake calipers done too but am worried about the heat being generated.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 08 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Check out the spec sheets for the paint, they will usually have the temperature range marked on them.

You usually need a specialist high temperature paint for callipers and suchlike though. That said, pretty sure the stuff they used at my Dads work used to go in an oven to cure.
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PostPosted: 14:50 - 09 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Johnny GSX-R wrote:
paulthewitt wrote:


LOL, someone did though... Mr. Green


Rumour suggests a copper Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:05 - 09 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was very happy with my frame after I got it powdercoated.

It was much better than the factory finish on it. Never seen 2-pack though.

Gaz
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PostPosted: 17:02 - 09 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just as a point of interest I had my Brake Calipers powdercoated about 6 months and they are still looking great. No marks, drop out etc at all.
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