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 Itchy Super Spammer

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 Posted: 09:09 - 09 Oct 2006 Post subject: Is violence the answer? |
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To many of the problems that occur on the road I mean ,
considering the judiciary are impotent made more so by full prisons , police are often too busy to deal with RTAs and often don't prosecute for obvious RTAs that were entirely the fault of one party.
Is violence the answer? , since doing nothing means those people who affect us are emboldened since nothing happens to them, and many BCFers get angry go ape shit , then calm down and chalk it up again to experience. , I have actually tried to put my boot into car doors a few times but have often missed or its been wet and I've not done any damage.
Like the case with Dragonfly , she was nearly wiped out , the guilty party didn't bat an eye lid , following and smashing windscreen would have given some comeuppance,
Though I'm no believer of Karma unlike some BCFers such that I don't think this will sort people out for their actions.
Any thoughts?
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 G The Voice of Reason
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| Johnny GSX-R |
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 Johnny GSX-R World Chat Champion

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 Posted: 09:52 - 09 Oct 2006 Post subject: Re: Is violence the answer? |
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| Itchy wrote: | I have actually tried to put my boot into car doors a few times but have often missed or its been wet and I've not done any damage.
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Ok, you've lost me now.
I must remember to have any accidents in the rain from now on
Lashing out at someone who has put your safety in danger is classed as an 'Automotism', its a natural reaction which at the time could not be controlled.
With hind sight a vast % of folk would not have done it. Many cage drivers do stupid things to put us at risk simply by being unaware of us, much of this is down to the rider and their positioning, aggressive riding manner, speed etc.
A cage driver is more relaxed in his/her safety cell, we however are constantly aware, or should be.
I had a deliberate incident a few months back onmy way to Scarborough on the M62 from Mancheser. I had the driver look at me then cut in on me and try and take me off.
Result was 1 x SAAB with modified door, wing, bonnet and mirror. The driver refused to stop so i didn't pursue it any further.
I was bloody angry at his action towards me for simply being there in his mirror, 'I' on the otherhand, reacted with adrenalin (fight or flight) and as always in my character i stood my ground.
My advice though contradicts what i have just uttered, i would strongly advise NOT to retaliate, there are so many ways in which you could lose out.
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| Mister James |
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 Mister James I want to believe!

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 Posted: 14:45 - 09 Oct 2006 Post subject: |
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Personally I find it helps to consider the perp's motivation. Was it just inattention, stupidity, natural circumstance etc, or was it deliberate? If you've had a scare, but it wasn't caused deliberately, live and let live. Shit happens and you've probably done it yourself and felt awful (even though you looked straight ahead, gripped the wheel and called the other guy a few names, even though you knew it was your fault. Eh?  ).
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Quite right Sir, insightful, and rated as such.
I think the earlier point by G is also valid, that it will cement in the average cack driver's mind that it was all the rider's fault, not his.
One should also consider that if the actions were deliberate, it could not only spark further life-endangering responses from the tit in question, but could also firmly cement in HIS mind that fighting a medium-grade war with any rider on the road is A Good Thing. ____________________ >Soultrader Mister James, I bet you are a copper
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 Itchy Super Spammer

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 Posted: 14:47 - 09 Oct 2006 Post subject: |
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Meh thats a resounding no then ,
looking at another thread where a bike hits a cop car , and the coments at the bottom that we are ALWAYS wrong , its not a good idea ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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| UrbanRacer |
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I used to scream and shout and swear, and lash out and get worked up and angry...now I dont bother, I shrug my shoulders and think 'tw@t', and then think about something else.
It doesnt solve anything getting irate, it winds you up, gets you stressed - and for what - nothing! It doesnt get solved, it doesnt get put right...
Im not sure what changed, perhaps it was riding, walking, being driven around some of the places like Bangkok, Hanoi, Saigon, places in India...that I realised, actually our drivers arent really all that bad...not in the big scheme of things.
I also think if everyone wasnt in so much of a hurry to get everywhere, the roads would be a nicer place. If people were more courteous and thankful when people did nice gestures, then it would spread...eventually. ____________________ Be who you are and say what you feel, because those who mind don't matter, and those who matter won't mind - Dr. Seuss |
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Recently i've taken to clapping at their stupidity if they've made a blatant mistake but i've seen it coming.
They are so embaressed  ____________________ Cleverly disguised as a responsible adult.
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 scottyni Two Stroke Sniffer

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clapping the stupidity..... done that a few times, or similar
i tend to evaluate how stupid they were and take it from there. pull along side and sit beside them generally makes them realise they done wrong. helps on black bike dressed all black.. scares them a little, i could be a little woos underneath it all...
pulled in front a couple of times and stopped them, had a chat then let them go on their way... that's if really stupid  ____________________ if you can't ride it.....
OR take it too bed...
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 Ste Not Work Safe

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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 230 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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