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GearboxGeezer
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PostPosted: 00:20 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Do you beleave in Afterlife? Reply with quote

Heya.

Now ask bikers, we all know that what we do is more dangerous that lets say driving a car. Yes obviously if your a safe rider then your less dangerous, but even the best riders in the world know it only takes one car to pull out without look and that could very well be then end of you.

Now with this in mind, Im sure we have all thought or ponderd on the Afterlife, Is there one?

Now my opinion on this question is that Heaven and religion and stuff is just made up, afterall, if you are religious then it takes away some of the fear of dieing. But really, I think we just die, end off that.

What do you guys think?
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PostPosted: 00:25 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ill tell you when it happens
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PostPosted: 00:35 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe there is an "afterlife". I am not scared of dying. The method for how I arrive in that state, however, does concern me.
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, its all bullshit we are just cells, and a brain that can think for itself, nothing special.

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PostPosted: 00:41 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was brought up in a Catholic family, but personally don't neccessarily believe in an afterlife.

I would, however prefer to delay the inevitable for as long as possible Wink
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PostPosted: 00:45 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

not often i agree with luke, but i do this time
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think there must be something out there or there would be no point in me being here. And the thought of it makes the thought of dying much easier to swallow Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 00:57 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just like to wonder what happens after you die, can you think? Or are you even aware of anything? Or then what Confused
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PostPosted: 01:00 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
No, its all bullshit we are just cells, and a brain that can think for itself, nothing special.

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Have a quick read of this and explain why it's all bullshit.
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PostPosted: 01:08 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

There better be, I intend on coming back to haunt BCF. Razz
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PostPosted: 01:11 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Life is about the journey from birth to death, theres no next step, no higher level, when you die thats the end of it. Try not to think that there is a goal at the end of life, life is it, thats it, nothing more.

People who dont accept the truth are either stupid, or too scared to accept it.

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PostPosted: 01:11 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
Luke wrote:
No, its all bullshit we are just cells, and a brain that can think for itself, nothing special.

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Have a quick read of this and explain why it's all bullshit.


it falls down quite early on (case 1)

"If consciousness is not an entirely physical phenomenon, then there must be some metaphysical aspect to it."

no. peppering hocus pocus nonsense with words like logic and physics, does not stop it from being hocus pocus nonsense

a computer is physical, its circuits and voltages and current flows are physical, but the program running on it is more than just the physical phenomenon. Its that they produce something which has order and meaning but there is no metaphysical apsect to it.

consciousness is like that

consciousness is not sacred or precious, its just a function that aids survival, and in turn reproduction of DNA, which is our function
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PostPosted: 01:13 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi
Its just a fluke, that some cells have got togther and actually started to be aware of its surroundings, we are made up atoms, just like everything else around us, its pretty obvious to see that all we are is just matter, nothing special, apart from we know whats going on, but fundamentaly, we are all just dirt Thumbs Up

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PostPosted: 01:17 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
it falls down quite early on (case 1)

"If consciousness is not an entirely physical phenomenon, then there must be some metaphysical aspect to it."

no. peppering hocus pocus nonsense with words like logic and physics, does not stop it from being hocus pocus nonsense

a computer is physical, its circuits and voltages and current flows are physical, but the program running on it is more than just the physical phenomenon. Its that they produce something which has order and meaning but there is no metaphysical apsect to it.

consciousness is like that

consciousness is not sacred or precious, its just a function that aids survival, and in turn reproduction of DNA, which is our function


Read further than case 1, as case 2 answers the "it's purely physical" aspect.
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PostPosted: 01:18 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

shaggy, you obviously cant cope that death is the end, come back in a few years when your man enough to take it like the rest of us Wink
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PostPosted: 01:22 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the co-incidence of cells coming together to create humans in my mind is like an explosion in a paper factor and a dictionary being created Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 01:27 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Luke wrote:
shaggy, you obviously cant cope that death is the end, come back in a few years when your man enough to take it like the rest of us Wink


I'm still waiting for an explaination. Or is it just too touchy-feely to think about? Smile
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PostPosted: 01:46 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Were born, we live, we die and decay just like everything else, end of.
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PostPosted: 01:48 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
Were born, we live, we die and decay just like everything else, end of.


That is such a sad perspective and outlook, made me cry Shocked Crying or Very sad

I really gotta get out more. This argument can be settled easily...someone just has to die and then come back to life Very Happy Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 01:51 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mazz wrote:
This argument can be settled easily...someone just has to die and then come back to life


Shall we draw straws?
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PostPosted: 01:53 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

zaknafien wrote:
Were born, we live, we die and decay just like everything else, end of.


"End of."

Such a compelling argument you make there Smile
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PostPosted: 01:57 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

hellkat wrote:
mazz wrote:
This argument can be settled easily...someone just has to die and then come back to life


Shall we draw straws?



You go first, I will try it second...honest Smile
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PostPosted: 02:00 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't believe in it.

I don't think it's any coincidence it's generally older people that do either. They're getting on, realising they've lived out the best part of their life and would like something to look forward to - an afterlife is convenient. Can't blame them, I'd be gutted too.
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PostPosted: 02:51 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
Maybe old people are wise enough, by virtue of their age and experience thereof, to have worked out that there's more to it than three-score-and-ten followed by total lights-out.


Fair point, but what experience you guys have had makes you believe there is an afterlife? It's a hell of a belief, considering the only thing 'solid' that points to it is religion - i.e. be good now, pay us taxes / blow someone up and you will be rewarded later - pretty much a tool for getting people to behave how you want.
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PostPosted: 03:09 - 10 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What do people think an after life would be then? Confused
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