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PostPosted: 22:48 - 12 Oct 2006    Post subject: Thinking of running away from a police dog Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 22:55 - 12 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Police Police https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=94076&highlight=police+dog Police Police Wink
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PostPosted: 22:56 - 12 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 00:51 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I reckon the dog would come off worst in an encounter with me. I have a detailed knowledge of how one fits together, and for that matter, how it comes apart.

I might get bitten a couple of times but the dog would be broken.
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PostPosted: 00:59 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Doesn't pulling the front legs of a dog apart kill it?
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PostPosted: 01:44 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've never met a dog that I couldn't open the mouth of using my fingers, even if they are trying their best to hold it closed. That includes breeds with so-called 'locking jaws'. "You're having a worming tablet and that's my final say on the matter." It's all a case of knowing how the joint works. There is no 'locking' mechanism as such, some just have very strong jaw muscles to hold them closed but these can be overcome by positioning and leverage.

Once you have their mouth open, it wouldn't take a great deal more effort to open it a lot further, thereby precluding the possability of them closing it again without surgical intervention.

I've met a couple I wouldn't willingly go near the mouth of with my bare hands because they were trying to bite me, but that is more of a 'mouth already open' thing.

The other thing to remember is that for all a dog is big and strong, even the biggest alsatian weighs in at 50kg. I weigh closer to 100 and could squash it flat. I could certainly hold it down on the ground by its throat or pick it up off the ground by the scruff of the neck and its tail (and have had to on occasion). They find it very difficult to bite you when their feet are off the ground
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PostPosted: 09:09 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Iv heard that if you prize the dogs jaw fully open, so you snap the jaw bone, thus rendering the said animal useless, you can then precede to kick the shit out of it,

Failing that shoot the fooker



Oh yeah I love dogs really, just helping the none dog lover
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PostPosted: 09:14 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken wrote:
Oh yeah I love dogs really, just helping the none dog lover


I'd just like to add, i think Ken means in a hypothetical situation where you really hate dogs and it's coming at you going mental.

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PostPosted: 09:20 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

what Killa said Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:24 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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How about if you just don't like it, because it won't stop yapping or it's shat all over your lawn?



get the Misses to clean it up, or just bin the animal

Either works for me
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PostPosted: 11:42 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

who here has actualy been attacked by a dog.
and i dont mean jsut snarled at. i mean a full on assult??

Speacking from personal experince, dog bits bloody hurt. and there quick fuckers that have a nasty habbit of jumping out the way as soon as you go to kick them, and then jumping forward again jsut when your off guard!!
also when one has the skin of you back between its teeth, its very hard either to think of getting you hand in to the back of its jaws to lever them apart. or moe iportantly to be in a postion where doing it is in fact possible.

Police dogs are good for two resons.
One if the suspects turns to face the dog. they have to stop running. and although they can prevent them selves being attacked they are no longer mobile. so police on foot can easy fine them (dogs bark loud).
And if they do run then a dog can easly bring a person to the ground. and once agaiin stop them moving.

But all this its easy to kill a dog is really a bit stupid. if a lion wants to stand still in frount of you there are easy enough to kill with bare hands. but belive me. once a dog really starts going for you. you spend more time worring and defending you self against serious injury than you do about how you are going to kill it.
There reactions are a lot quicker than yours. and for all this sticking you fingers in there eyes, they will have moved well out of range the instence you hands go near there head.

In fact dogs taht latch on and don't let go, are probable much nicer to be attacked by than the one i was. that just attacked, bit, letgo and retreated out of range. before starting all over again!!
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PostPosted: 11:56 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DevilWAH wrote:
you spend more time worring and defending you self against serious injury than you do about how you are going to kill it.

That's your mistake. For the record I have been attacked a few times. Not only that, I also worked for a while in both sleeve and body sleeve training of forces animals so I feel this is probably a subject I can talk confidently on. When a dog is going in for a bite then close, don't defend. All that will happen with a "defense" is a lacerated arm or leg unless you're lucky enough to be wearing a set of leathers or somesuch (suprised the hell out of a rottie by sticking an armoured sleeve well down it's gullet). Once you've got the fucker pinned there isn't an awful lot to do other than get it's throat/jaws under control. As someone has already commented, the teeth are the only offense worth worrying about. The main threat from these animals is all out attack, go in with a similar mind set and you've got a reach and weight advantage at the very least, much more if you've got even half a brain.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
Any dog that comes at me, much less tries, or manages, to bite me is going to get seriously fucked up, and I don't care if there is a pig screeching in my ear and coshing me with a baton to try and save it.


I'd like a painting of that on my wall. Razz
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PostPosted: 12:20 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
The last dog that attacked me will never attack anyone else.

Screws learned to keep their dogs out of range of my feet.

Any dog that comes at me, much less tries, or manages, to bite me is going to get seriously fucked up, and I don't care if there is a pig screeching in my ear and coshing me with a baton to try and save it.

Don't you have any morals or values other than for yourself? Killing a dog and being proud of it... you must be well 'ard. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 12:48 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The only times I have been attacked is by them mother fucking Jack Russell, (twice in fact) anyway this jack Russell lived with an widower a couple of doors away from my house,

Walking to home with me little lad one afternoon ,the thing was barking and it had anger in its eyes, it started running at pace towards us, it was goner attack one of us, as it got a couple of feet a way with teeth snarling, I swung my right foot, kicked it right in the chest and face (size 10 boot) for the dog to be in the air travelling backwards faster than it came in forward motion, (it died 3 days later im told), this was self preservation for me and more importantly my boy, who to this day 5 years later, is still fritt scared of dogs I didn’t want it dead but it should have been kept under control, that’s half the problem with viscous dogs, they aren’t loved as family pets

Not one piece of bullshit in that story (apart from im size 9.5 Embarassed )
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PostPosted: 12:55 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ha...you soccer kicked a dog and it died. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:12 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

the problem isn't the dog , its while your dealing with it , even the most unfit porker of a copper will have reached you wrestling with his dog , think Nooooo you killed my dog and give you a through introduction to his baton , and feet.
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PostPosted: 13:22 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
Oh, sorry, I guess I should let a dog savage me. Prat. Laughing

Why was the dog attacking you?
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PostPosted: 13:25 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

But isn't there normally more than one dog that chases down the criminal(s)? If so then I doubt you would be able to defeat two dogs that are highly trained because you would be concentrating on one of them (choking it or poking out its eyeballs...whatever) while the other will be latching onto your arm to bring you to the ground. This will allow enough time for you to be captured. Job successfully completed for the dogs and the police.

I don't know if this is true or not but when in the Air Cadets we went to a military airbase to fly some light aircraft (Bulldog aircraft) anyway, the guards at the base warned us that there are dogs (Alsatians) on patrol and they are trained that when they see someone they do not recognize they do not attack, but will stand a few inches from your bullocks growling. If you move then they will go for it. Now I wouldn't even want to try and move when in this situation let alone try and choke it! It would only take a split second for it to move from its guarding position to ripping off my balls and penis. Again, I do not know if this is true. Laughing
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

all of a sudden I'm reminded of this Amiga game called full contact
where this bad dude sets his dog on you , you end up killing it , and he sets his other dog on you and then starts on you also ,

that was a bloody frustrating battle if I ever played one ,
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The reason is very relevant. Ken explained about that dog running at pace towards him when he had his little kid with him and so he kicked the dog away in to defence himself and (more to point IMO) his kid. Thats fair enough, that dog shouldn't have been loose.

You've said how screws learned to keep their dogs out of range of your feet, so presumably it was a screws dog you killed just for the fun of it. As I said, what a 'ard man you must be. Rolling Eyes

So go on, do explain, why was this dog attacking you? Any dog that goes for you gets hurt possibly fair enough, but there's a big difference between hurting a dog and killing a dog...
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PostPosted: 15:15 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
Oh, sorry, I guess I should let a dog savage me. Prat. Laughing

The reason is totally irrelevant. Any dog that goes for me, for whatever reason, gets hurt, period.


I doubt youd last 2 minutes with my dog
she's a big german shepard and they have enough power in there jaws to break human arm & leg bones

and if a dog attacks you its more than likely you were in the wrong
most dogs only attack if they feel threatened or are commanded to
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

oldpink wrote:


I doubt youd last 2 minutes with my dog
she's a big german shepard and they have enough power in there jaws to break human arm & leg bones

and if a dog attacks you its more than likely you were in the wrong
most dogs only attack if they feel threatened or are commanded to


very true.
Also dogs are not helpless little animals. An irish wolf hound can lift a full grown german shepard clear of the ground in its jaw. the same feat that most people on here would struggle to do.

And Tarmacsurfer having been involved in training dog you are rght in taht you are lickly to be far more aware of what is involved in an attack, and what to do.
But its like sending a body builder or a trained boxer in to the ring with another boxer. The bodybuilder may be bigger and stronger than the boxer. but as they will have little knowlage of how to box they are most lickly to lose. so where as if you have been working with dog for years you might one be less intimitated buy a dog and two have a better idea how to deal with it. At the age of 15 having a dog charging at you in an all out attack is a very different situation

Also police dogs and trained dogs attact in a very different way to wild dogs. You can train a dog to make its attacks head on. but most dogs will attempt to attack from behind naturaly.
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Remember.....

Dogs love mince.

Just divert the dog's attention by throwing a carefully aimed pocket full of mince in the opposite direction.

They fall for that old trick everytime.
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 13 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keep in mind the only part of a dogs jaw that moves is the bottom half, grabbing that and pushing down will stop any dog biting Thumbs Up

Tried and tested method causing little pain to the dog, although the other hand is free to batter it back into submission Wink
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