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Essex_Mike
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: help please Reply with quote

Sad i'm such a retard, came off the bike on spilt deisel earlier. bike is running okay it seems. but one big problem. the front forks won't dampen when im braking or going over bumps.

any ideas?

they don't appear to be bent, or anything trapped around the front area.

regards, Mike
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If they're not moving, get them off, strip them down and check for bends. It will be much easier to tell with a bubble level when they're off the bike. Then replace relevant parts and whack them back together.
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

looks like a garage job, i aint got a clue what im doing tbh
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PostPosted: 16:04 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Essex_Mike wrote:
looks like a garage job, i aint got a clue what im doing tbh


I was never brave enough to attempt it either, but I'm told it's just very time consuming, but easy enough if you use a Haynes.

I'd still be tempted to take them apart and order new parts myself, the garage will rape you for the time and the mark up on parts will be bigger.
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PostPosted: 16:09 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

well thats the annoying thing. they never produced a bloody haynes for my suzuki en125.

being an accident would there be any possibility of it being covered in my warranty? as i still have a month remaining.
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PostPosted: 16:16 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Warranty? almost certainly not. That would be for mechanical defects etc...,

I crashed on a diesel spill a couple months back, lucky not too much damage and some very generous people helped me out, The only way you can claim for a diesel spillthat i know is if you can identify that the council knew about the spill and did not clean it?? Or clealy identify who spilled the diesel? Dont take my word for that though, read up on it yourself to be sure.

If you got fully comp insurance you could claim, not worth fucking your NCB TBH.
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PostPosted: 16:23 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

no point complaining to council tbh, as its a backroad. Apart from possibly bent forks. Is there anything simple that could be stopping them?
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PostPosted: 16:36 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: help please Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 16:46 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

they won't compress. so i guess they are seized. i would claim off insurance but my excess is just to high so no point.

think i might take more of my old bike apart to get used to taking the forks off of that then go and try it on the suzuki.
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PostPosted: 17:07 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:11 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

right, just got a call from my dads mate. he is gona check it over friday morning. he will try fix it. otherwise he said to buy the new parts n he'll put em on. otherwise i will have to spend a bit on a shop to do it all.

Smile so a little bit to smile upon then.
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PostPosted: 17:42 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

cheers, well i didn't get hurt and wasn't shaken. luckily i didn't miss any college. was there within 30 minutes of it all happening.
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PostPosted: 17:54 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you dont fancy dismantling the forks, just remove the front wheel, slip them out from the yokes and take them to a work shop. It should be cheaper as you have done some of the donkey work.

Spills suck, glad you ok, pride takes the longest to heal.
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PostPosted: 20:39 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
If they're not moving, get them off, strip them down and check for bends. It will be much easier to tell with a bubble level when they're off the bike. Then replace relevant parts and whack them back together.


Can you explain this method please?
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PostPosted: 23:23 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Rookie wrote:
If they're not moving, get them off, strip them down and check for bends. It will be much easier to tell with a bubble level when they're off the bike. Then replace relevant parts and whack them back together.


Can you explain this method please?


Does nt rolling the stanshions and the like along a flat work bench work just as well, does for spindles and axles anyways?
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PostPosted: 23:27 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Whosthedaddy wrote:

Does nt rolling the stanshions and the like along a flat work bench work just as well, does for spindles and axles anyways?


Not really no. I've yet to find a flat work bench.
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PostPosted: 23:32 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To check for bent stanchions you remove them BOTH and put them together on a flat surface and roll them touching each other. Keep doing it and checking for gaps that appear in between them in the middle or at the ends as you roll. If they are more than a tiny bit bent they will roll like an egg anyway.
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PostPosted: 23:34 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
To check for bent stanchions you remove them BOTH and put them together on a flat surface and roll them touching each other. Keep doing it and checking for gaps that appear in between them in the middle or at the ends as you roll. If they are more than a tiny bit bent they will roll like an egg anyway.


You don't have a vice and a dial test indicator then?
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 17 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have three DTI's.

Most people don't have any.
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PostPosted: 13:36 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Geri wrote:
I have three DTI's.

Most people don't have any.


Most people don't have the kit to strip fork legs either. Its much easier to leave them in one piece, strap or G clamp the outer to a table and turn the inner with an improvised stop against the far end to see if theres any deflection.

Why does everyone try and make things so damn hard?
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PostPosted: 14:28 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Geri wrote:
I have three DTI's.

Most people don't have any.


Most people don't have the kit to strip fork legs either. Its much easier to leave them in one piece, strap or G clamp the outer to a table and turn the inner with an improvised stop against the far end to see if theres any deflection.

Why does everyone try and make things so damn hard?


I wouldn't even do that.

Take the wheel and spindle out, remove the caliper, lock the steering, so it can't move, attach a welding-rod or similar to the frame so it's almost touching the fork lower, (somewhere there's no mounting bits obviously) and then rotate the lower on the stantion and watch for the gap between the leg and the welding-rod change.

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PostPosted: 14:52 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Essex_Mike wrote:
cheers, well i didn't get hurt and wasn't shaken. luckily i didn't miss any college. was there within 30 minutes of it all happening.

Good man! Thumbs Up
Hope you get your bike back on the road soon mate.

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PostPosted: 15:31 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I wouldn't even do that.

Take the wheel and spindle out, remove the caliper, lock the steering, so it can't move, attach a welding-rod or similar to the frame so it's almost touching the fork lower, (somewhere there's no mounting bits obviously) and then rotate the lower on the stantion and watch for the gap between the leg and the welding-rod change.

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Think about that very carefully and you'll work out why it won't work on RWU forks.

Thats why I wrote OUTER.

Not to mention the outer is often slightly offset due to machining tolerance.
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 18 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
feef wrote:


I wouldn't even do that.

Take the wheel and spindle out, remove the caliper, lock the steering, so it can't move, attach a welding-rod or similar to the frame so it's almost touching the fork lower, (somewhere there's no mounting bits obviously) and then rotate the lower on the stantion and watch for the gap between the leg and the welding-rod change.

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Think about that very carefully and you'll work out why it won't work on RWU forks.

Thats why I wrote OUTER.

Not to mention the outer is often slightly offset due to machining tolerance.


valid point, howeverm with RWU forks, you can do the same by loosening off the yokes, and rotating the stantion in there.

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