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flyer
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PostPosted: 18:59 - 20 Oct 2006    Post subject: sv650 as first bike Reply with quote

Im doing my DAS in a couple of weeks, have been riding a rs125 for 6 months and am thinking of getting a naked sv650 as my first big bike, any thoughts on the matter??
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PostPosted: 19:06 - 20 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, good.
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 20 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It is a good bike for beginners, good all rounder so I hear Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 19:53 - 20 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have an SV650 as my first big bike and I love it, easy to handle and loads of fun. I've had mine for 12 months and still love it.

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PostPosted: 05:17 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yes, in my opinion they are an ideal first bike. Thumbs Up

Not particularly quick but easy to ride and handle suprisingly well for a low budget machine.
In a different league compared to the likes of the ER5 and GS500, although maybe it's not fair to compare as I've only ever rode one example of a GS and my SV is not exactly stock.
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PostPosted: 05:28 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Vfr400 FTW in my opinion that is.

To me they seem to be a much better bike at the fraction of the cost of the SV650.

I was planning on getting one to, but my mates who have them said that it was there biggest mistake getting one, and pointed me in the direction of the 400 group Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 05:43 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kiss_My_Rs wrote:
Vfr400 FTW in my opinion that is.

To me they seem to be a much better bike at the fraction of the cost of the SV650.

I was planning on getting one to, but my mates who have them said that it was there biggest mistake getting one, and pointed me in the direction of the 400 group Thumbs Up


A fraction of the cost?

A nc30 costs more to buy, and is 2 insurance groups higher than the sv.

A 600 makes more sense to me if I wanted a sports rep.
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PostPosted: 06:12 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I picked my nc30 up for 1000 and paying 400 on insurance. Im paying more for me rs at the minute.

So god knows then there both gd bikes so what ever you choose gd luck.
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PostPosted: 07:45 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

An NC30 for £1000 will be a relative heap. An SV for £1000 will be fair to midland.
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PostPosted: 07:55 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://i103.photobucket.com/albums/m156/Djantty/1heap.jpg

Yup nice heap.
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PostPosted: 08:49 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Yup nice heap.

Yea, have to spend a fair bit to get that 'orrible paint job off the bike for a start Smile.
Unfortunately you can polish a turd and a cheapish aftermarket fairing does not mean a bike is good or not good.

Kiss_My_Rs wrote:
Vfr400 FTW in my opinion that is.

To me they seem to be a much better bike at the fraction of the cost of the SV650.

I was planning on getting one to, but my mates who have them said that it was there biggest mistake getting one, and pointed me in the direction of the 400 group Thumbs Up

So I presume you're saying this just on the basis of what some mates have told you?

The VFR is a better sports bike. The SV is a better bike for day to day use, motorways, etc.
SV has more peak power and more midrange power, and despite the worse suspension, the new SV rider may find themselves going faster than the VFR rider - as the VFR needs to be used more precisily.

Similar cost to buy, you can get cheaper VFR, but generally they're in worse condition as well.
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PostPosted: 09:19 - 21 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SV wasnt my first bike, more like my fifth bike, and 5 years later I still have her! Suits me fine.
Nice and torquey and perfect for nipping around town, not really a long way commuter bike, but saying that I have ridden up to Cheshire from Hampshire loaded up with my camping gear and I was fine (and I have long legs too)

Cheap for parts and extra's. A good choice I'd say.
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PostPosted: 13:34 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: SV650 Sport? Reply with quote

What about the SV650 Sport that's on offer atm, with a years free insurance (though it's across the Bandit/SV range I believe)?
Anyone ridden/seen one?
Or know much about them?

I cover about a 1,000miles a month to/from work. So it wouldn't be for my commute ;p Just a fun throw around bike (not literally throw around, I hope).

Ok, ok. Found a link to an SV site. And they're all basicly sayings it's a standard SV with lowers and a cowl, nothing else.
But, if someone's looking for a new bike, and an SV, still worth looking into, yeah? The free insurance is what I like, being as I've lost my NCB due to crash last year.
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PostPosted: 14:15 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want to find out more about the sv by those who ride them daily, and talk sv and nothing more - then check out the sv650.org website. They are a friendly bunch...and will tell you anything you wish to know about said bike.
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PostPosted: 14:39 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

NC30s are cheap for one reason only the cheap ones are dogs , I've been shopping for a decent NC30 for nigh 4 months now and still can't find a good one except for this one in Liverpool that looks
wayy stolen.

Almost all of them have been thrashed or trashed , and its not really a straight contest either since an NC30 will have had 10-14 years depreciation, while an SV 6-7 max.

They are sooo sweet though, but as said its comparing apples and oranges , one is a semi sportscommuter the other is a semi custom made HRC bike designed to kick ass at the Isle of man TT (I read this story somewhere about its development) , no contest,

£8000 (in 1989) compared to £4200 for a new SV now, £8000 then was a helluva lot of money , and now probably worth about 15K.
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PostPosted: 16:19 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I like the sv650s. When you say you will have one as your first big bike do you mean when you come of your 33bhp restriction or will you be passing your test and ridding it as a 33? Does anyone know if they restrict well or not? And also what is involved in restricting one?
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ta for the info. Im 30 and doing my das. but have riden 33 bhp previously, ( on a private road of course). So Itll be my first jump up from a 125. Ive just seen a local ad for a zepher550, in mint con as well.
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get the SV good first bike if you like the looks of it it will bring you lots of fun. that and the bandit are ideal... and if you want to spice things up a little look at a kawasaki Z750...not that im bias! Laughing

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PostPosted: 22:22 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the sv's like on fuel? I need quite an cheap to run bike. A big part of its use will be to and from school and work. Neither of wich are more than a 5-10 minute ride away. Is it worth going for a 650 for this? I will also use it for basic pleasure riding aswell though.
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PostPosted: 22:37 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Today I did about 120miles motorway, mostly sat between 70mph - 100mph and 20 miles between 10mph-60mph. Got 46.4mpg average.

Quite a bit of accleration and speed changes there, which will impact fuel consumption.

Should suit your needs otherwise Andy.
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

andymarks wrote:
What are the sv's like on fuel? I need quite an cheap to run bike. A big part of its use will be to and from school and work. Neither of wich are more than a 5-10 minute ride away. Is it worth going for a 650 for this? I will also use it for basic pleasure riding aswell though.


bigger engines don't mean sucking more fuel , my NTv650 is a good 50cc more than my NTV600 which died horriby and gets better MPG , as the engine is less strained , read up that post about a 1.8l car and fuel usage , I used to have a mazda which was 1.3 seriously under powered , I bought another one that was 1.8 I think and it used less fuel , take it easy ride like a granny , don't race couriers and 50mpg is easy, rag it and 30-40mpg is normal.
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PostPosted: 18:36 - 24 Oct 2006    Post subject: Re: SV650 Sport? Reply with quote

alone wrote:
What about the SV650 Sport that's on offer atm, with a years free insurance (though it's across the Bandit/SV range I believe)?
Anyone ridden/seen one?
Or know much about them?

I cover about a 1,000miles a month to/from work. So it wouldn't be for my commute ;p Just a fun throw around bike (not literally throw around, I hope).

Ok, ok. Found a link to an SV site. And they're all basicly sayings it's a standard SV with lowers and a cowl, nothing else.
But, if someone's looking for a new bike, and an SV, still worth looking into, yeah? The free insurance is what I like, being as I've lost my NCB due to crash last year.


Yep, it's just a normal SV650s like mine (see sig) with lowers included. Personally i don't like the lowers as you can't keep the bike so clean and so opted for a belly pan. Still the SV650s is a bit of a bargain if you are now getting lowers AND free insurance thrown in.

Mine's my third bike and i'm still not bored of it, excellent bikes just be aware that the faired version has a sports riding position with low clip-ons instead of handlebars and high footpegs whilst the naked SV has an upright riding position due to the handlebars and lower footpegs:

https://www.media.suzuki.com/svlaunch/images/positions.jpeg
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PostPosted: 14:26 - 25 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Torque05 wrote:
Get the SV good first bike if you like the looks of it it will bring you lots of fun. that and the bandit are ideal... and if you want to spice things up a little look at a kawasaki Z750...not that im bias! Laughing

Joe


I considered the SV as they get really good "first big bike "reviews.
Fell in love with the z750 when i saw it and heard it. Also helps having that additional 150cc capacity to eh hem lug around my extra capacity Embarassed

Why not test one?
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PostPosted: 19:10 - 25 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

They ain't a bad bike BUT they are built to a price......& that price is aimed at the lower end of the market...know what I mean!
The finish is shite is what I'm trying to say. Clanger's SV has been resprayed & it's a good job too. A few months living down in Brighton & the bike was starting to deteriorate quite badly. They don't like English winters at all so if you buy one then look after it by washing it regularly.
As a bike to ride well they're ok but the rear shock is definitely built on a budget & the front forks really do feel much much better for a set of progressive springs & slighly thicker oil.
The engine has some nice torquey characteristics (For a 650 twin) but don't expect to be pulling power wheelies at 70MPH.
All in all, it's a good CHEAP bike.
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