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PostPosted: 20:57 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: No arrests in Manchester during Ramadan? Reply with quote

Has our country gone completely PC mad to allow this to happen?!

https://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,,1928692,00.html

It's not like Christians don't get arrested at Christmas, or Jewish don't get arrested at Hanukkah etc? Why is the Muslim faith the exception? What makes them so important all of a sudden? Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:09 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Had you read the story you would have realised that the police were asked not to "execute arrest warrants during prayer times for reasons of religious sensitivity". Slightly different from "not arresting during Ramadan".

All that means is that the police are not barging into somebody's home during the prayer time to arrest them for questioning, as this would cause considerable harm in the current climate. If, however, they'd see a muslim robbing a bank during the month of Ramadan, or even during the prayer hour, I'm sure they'd still arrest him/her.
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sorry Paivi, i misunderstood in that case.

If i'm honest i still don't agree with not arresting people during prayer times. I know as you say it is to do with the current climate, but the police shouldn't have to wait to enforce the law, if there is no concrete obstacle stopping them?

I could see arrests being a problem where this is official the national religion, but not here.
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 22 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I hate the people that strive for political correctness. It's a load of bollocks and they don't have lives!! Fucks sake, common sense should prevail!! Can't they just make up a law that states that??

Oh shit, parts of above may have been considered offensive to certain Ladies and/or Gentlemen. I will try again...

"I stress a certain dislike for Ladies and/or Gentlemen that view their opinion on political correctness as being the correct way. In my opinion, it is incorrect and that the PC Brigade do not have metaphorical lives."




Is that better you PC fucks??
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PostPosted: 10:13 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Who put the "RAM" in the ramadamadingdong? Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stupid idea imo. If you don't want cops knocking on/breaking down your door at inconvenient times then you should probably go out of your way not to have an arrest warrant on your name.
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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All that means is that the police are not barging into somebody's home during the prayer time to arrest them for questioning, as this would cause considerable harm in the current climate. If, however, they'd see a muslim robbing a bank during the month of Ramadan, or even during the prayer hour, I'm sure they'd still arrest him/her.

The sensitive time's which are caused by people who practice a version of Islam.

Imagine copper's being told not to arrest people whilst their local team's football game is on. Football is a very important part of some people's live's and deserves to be respected, disrupting it would be offending them and their human right's. Rolling Eyes

They can take a fucking running jump. If your committing crime's that directly affect someone in a negeative way then you should get arrested, regardless of what you beleive.
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PostPosted: 22:40 - 23 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reuben wrote:
They can take a fucking running jump. If your committing crime's that directly affect someone in a negeative way then you should get arrested, regardless of what you beleive.


Sure you should be, if you're busy committing it. If you're being arrested on suspicion of having committed something and are busy praying, having started before the Polis turned up, I don't really think it's that unreasonable to let you finish.

It's nice to imagine that they might do the same for devout Christians praying. Sensible coppers might, but most devout Christians I've ever met wouldn't have the balls to stand up to a policeman.
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PostPosted: 09:58 - 25 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

To be quite frank, if you have done something that the police want to arrest you for, you can't be that devout. Unless you are an extremist, in which case i'd rather have you off the streets now, ta.
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PostPosted: 10:26 - 25 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

lilredmachine wrote:
To be quite frank, if you have done something that the police want to arrest you for, you can't be that devout.


Innocent until proven guilty.
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PostPosted: 10:28 - 25 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

robby wrote:
lilredmachine wrote:
To be quite frank, if you have done something that the police want to arrest you for, you can't be that devout.


Innocent until proven guilty.


yeah, thats right. *snigger*

That's why our government runs a mass ad campaign that threatens us with fines if we don't pay our car tax, tv licence etc.
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PostPosted: 01:19 - 26 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

PC stuff like that is so ridiculous, it beggars belief.

"Devout" is a load of bollocks. Its just another excuse for crooks (of ANY creed) "pretending to be good", when they are running round pissing off anybody at any opportunity, or worse.

If you are going to make it your life's work to be a good, nice, honest, decent etc. citizen, then do it properly or don't do it at all.

I hate fakes, all holier than thou till they re-cross the threshold of whatever temple of worship they chose to follow, back into the venal world.

Religion is effectively a big fat nothing, except in the minds of the "devout", so it should have nothing to do with the ability of the long arm of the law to go in and arrest, question, charge, whatever else they do. Just because you're sitting on a prayer mat/kneeling on a pew, doesn't mean you're not sitting there grinning to yourself over having gotten away with some misdeed.

If there was some Irish chap in whom plod had an interest, due to a convincing notion that he might have been involved in terrorist action - they'd have no compunction in arresting him in church if they found him there, no matter which church he was hiding out in.

So why make an exception for any other religion (again) ?
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PostPosted: 00:07 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Agreed.

In the same way i'm not allowed in to morrisons wearing my lid.

Whereas if it was a burka I am.

Pisses me off big style its just not fair.
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PostPosted: 14:30 - 23 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The thing is, some noncy copper has thought this would be a good idea...

And yet who are we seething about, the muslim cunts as per.

Trust me theres no love lost for either group, but i think something should be passed round stopping coppers from being such complete mongs.

The more they try and be sensitive to one group, the more they alienate them. Everyone should be treated equally.
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PostPosted: 19:09 - 17 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Following on from this story about police officers not arresting muslims during ramadam it doesn't surprise me that they dont extent the same courtesy to christians.

Taken from the bbc website.

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/manchester/6188241.stm

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Police send cards to law-breakers
Police in Greater Manchester are sending Christmas cards to criminals in a bid to appeal to their better nature and persuade them not to offend.
The cards, which are being sent to known law-breakers in Chadderton, near Oldham, have been produced with the Chadderton Area Action Team.

They have been personally signed by the Neighbourhood Policing Inspector and feature the Crimestoppers number.

It is hoped the festive card will cut vehicle crime and burglary in the area.

The cards also bear the message: "We are looking out for you and the community".

Neighbourhood Policing Inspector John Haywood said: "We hope that receiving a Christmas card from the police may discourage some offenders from committing crime this Christmas.

"It is the season for giving, not taking, and some people need reminding of this as they consider trying to ruin somebody else's Christmas".

Police claim the initiative is also aimed at families of offenders who may have information which could help police reduce crime.




You're not safe in Leeds either


https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/west_yorkshire/6187943.stm

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Cameras used for 'burglar trap'
Homes at secret locations in Leeds have been equipped with hidden cameras in an attempt to catch burglars red-handed.
Police have left desirable items including car keys, laptops and other electrical items in full view from the street to lure criminals.

If a burglar tries to enter the home, they will be caught on camera and sprayed with Smartwater.

The invisible coded dye stays on skin and clothing for months. The initiative has so far led to three arrests.

Ch Supt Howard Crowther said: "Anyone sprayed by the solution and caught on camera will actually have no idea and will think they have got away with it but already we have three people arrested and it is too late for many others.

"If you have recently committed a burglary let your family know you may be away for Christmas and you could well be on our list."

Mr Crowther said the operation showed how important it was not to leave valuables on display.

"The most effective crime prevention methods are often the cheapest. Just by ensuring your doors and windows are locked whenever possible will massively reduce your chances of becoming a victim of burglary."




While I have no problems with the police arresting people over christmas, I do have a problem with them not arresting muslims at Ramadam. If they are to integrate then they have to follow the same rules and laws as the rest of us. Mad
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PostPosted: 15:49 - 18 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is an utterly ridiculous idea.

If the police have a warrant for someones arrest, they should be arrested at thier earliest and cheapest convenience.

If you live in Britain you live under British law.

It would be unfair to raid a mosque full of worshippers to arrest one person, but if it's one person on his own at home - drag him out by the ears like anyone else.
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