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Do you wear Flouescent protective garments
Yes - I'm safety conscious
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king kong
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Dark early - feeling vulnerable? Reply with quote

With clocks going back and all, riding home on my black bike, black leathers and black helmet I felt a wee bit vulnerable during this evening's rush hour.
The traffic seemed twice as busy with a ll the headlights, I can't determine if I'm being followed by another bike when filtering (once again too many headlights), information overload!

I got me bike in April so this is the first serious night riding I've done and was wondering if I should swallow the vanity pill and invest in one of them flourescent jerkin / belt thingys?
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Never had high vis gear personally, not a cop out at all to buy a vest or belt.

Safety first Wink
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PostPosted: 21:24 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

if it makes you feel safer then just buy one.. they are cheap as chips, if bike shop wants more than like.. £5 then fuck em' and go to a shope that sells PPE workwear... cheap as chips!! or ebay...

Wear it only when you feel you need to, who cares what it looks like it'll be dark??!

dont need to wear it when its light and they don't exactly take much space so just chuck it under the seat for when you feel vulnerable..

its nothing to worry about you'll get used to it with experience, but its always a good idea to wear something high vis if you're commuting lots especially in all black gear.
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PostPosted: 21:59 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I do tend to when the clocks go back and then I rarely do any riding when it's light other than at weekends. Most of the time I've a backpack on so it's kind of pointless for the most part. In addition, there're streetlamps all the way between work and home so reflective gear doesn't make all that much difference.

Riding on unlit roads it makes a hell of a difference. You can see people wearing it from a good quarter mile away (like road signs).
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'll be getting one tomorrow despite not having one for over twenty years. Black gear and a black bike just doesn't seem a good idea since most of the 20 odd miles to work are unlit NSL or plain old rural roads. Its definately different to when I lived in the middle of Birmingham.
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PostPosted: 22:31 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
Most of the time I've a backpack on so it's kind of pointless for the most part.


simply put the hi vis thing on the backpack

or better still strap the backpack to the bike, as if you come off landing on your back pack wdnt be nice
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PostPosted: 22:41 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
mchaggis wrote:
Most of the time I've a backpack on so it's kind of pointless for the most part.


simply put the hi vis thing on the backpack

or better still strap the backpack to the bike, as if you come off landing on your back pack wdnt be nice


I'll be fine; I don't carry small hard things in there and it's usually a hiking rucksack. However, the company I work for will hate me if I damage their laptop I'm not disencouraged to carry. Laughing

I wonder if there's a metal laptop case I could get which would fit in my backpack. Thinking I think it might just be called a car.
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PostPosted: 23:13 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

poggiali rep for the win Thumbs Up can't miss me with a big yellow head hehe Smile
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I must admit that I do prefer the backpack to a tankbag, but the thought of coming off said bike and landing on me back is not too appealing though.
I like thidea of keeping high vis jerkin under the bike seat though and play it by 'ear' as it were. Just the thought of car drivers struggling to see through a rain lashed windscreen at night in a country lane, and just glimpsing a motorbike at the last minute gives me the shivers.

Yep high vis - you know it makes sense.
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PostPosted: 23:47 - 30 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have "mirror" tape on my helmet (on the back) which loks quite nifty and on the back of all the luggage, dont look overly sexy but it certainly works! https://www.bikeseen.com/tapes.htm you can gt it on ebay for a bit cheaper sometimes..

Interesting to not the blue reflective tape is legal, i'm sure it would catch the eye of zombie commuters quite well, even seen high vis jackets in blue with polite written on them Razz Laughing (from a distance you can imagine)
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PostPosted: 00:00 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Safety First! Smile


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PostPosted: 00:03 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

IMO if you're gonna go hi-vis, you gotta got the whole hog - long sleeved waistcoat and the matching trousers. And if you're wearing a backpack, stick a hi-viz cover over that.

IMO (again), if you wear just part hi-vis then it breaks up the outline of you/your bike and make you even harder to see. Other roads users (believe it or not) are looking out for familiar objects such as bike/people, not patchwork quilts doing 60mph Laughing



(BTW I've only ever worn hi-vis when on my CBTs)
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PostPosted: 00:13 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dont have a problem with my hi-vis vest, I would rather be alive than vain... I can look good again next year Very Happy

cheers

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PostPosted: 07:26 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

JJB sports shops. place are doing the high viz vests and jackets for a couple of quid Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 08:04 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I dug mine out last night, I don't care what I look like after all I ride a hack.

Also if it gives other road users that slightly better chance of seeing me then its worth it.

Also if your on the look out for gear or just reflective strips there is a company called 'Glomarka' I have a few of their things and they are usually at the NEC this time of year!
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PostPosted: 08:39 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think I'll be getting the hi-viz waistcoat out from now on too. I've also got a black bike, and mostly black kit.
Wasn't too bad riding in to work this morning because it was dry, and I came in on a route that has street lighting all the way...
But I dread to think what it'd be like on the alternative route (unlit NSL/dual) in the rain.

I have a hi-viz waistcoat that I originally bought for my CBT/DAS last year... but the MC school issued everyone with new ones with the school logo/phone number on them (been in the cupboard ever since). However, considering I dropped the GPZ on Saturday I'm not so sure they'd want me advertising for them any more Rolling Eyes Wink
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PostPosted: 09:28 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:

I wonder if there's a metal laptop case I could get which would fit in my backpack. Thinking I think it might just be called a car.



Did you see the Gadget Show last night?

A Crumpler bag will do the trick. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 10:18 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:



Did you see the Gadget Show last night?

A Crumpler bag will do the trick. Thumbs Up

I saw it! That indestructible laptop was ace!
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PostPosted: 11:09 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I've got a hi viz yellow thing I used last year in the depths of winter as I had black waterproofs and bike but it clashes with the new bike. Looks like I'll have to get a flourescent orange on now Laughing (actually the bikes so bright dunno if I need to bother this time)
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PostPosted: 11:49 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

My dad wears one if it makes you feel better. He has a Black ZZR1100 and black leathers etc etc, But he swears by them, Boils down to how much you value yourself. No body knows who you are so it doesn't matter, if you feel safe, wear it.
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PostPosted: 13:58 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode in the dark for the first time last night. It was OK but not helped by the fact it was also raining, so I was getting dazzled a bit. I wore my new hi-vis sleeved jacket for the first time. I don't wear it in the daytime but I wanted to be visible in the dark. Makes me look like the honey monster in it, but no-one knows who it is underneath the helmet. It's not meant to be a fashion statement after all!
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PostPosted: 17:06 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I was always under the impression that hi-viz improved your visibility in daylight, or maybe poor visibility conditions, rain, fog etc.

In the dark what you want isn't hi-viz, but reflective stuff. My mainly black leathers, boots and gloves have reflective piping, so when a light shines on my I'm lit up like a christmas tree.

Most of the hi-viz stuff does have reflective bits too, but you can get the reflective stuff without the workman flourescent yellow.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dazbo666 wrote:
I have a hi-viz waistcoat that I originally bought for my CBT/DAS last year... but the MC school issued everyone with new ones with the school logo/phone number on them (been in the cupboard ever since). However, considering I dropped the GPZ on Saturday I'm not so sure they'd want me advertising for them any more Rolling Eyes Wink


My instructor told me to remove my High-Viz vest when he gave me a lift back to the school following a (failed) test.

After tanking it along the back roads at "Legal + Plenty" MPH I said to him

"I see why you wanted me to remove the vest. Best not to advertise the training school at those speeds.."

"Yep."

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i have one of these;

https://www.motobrio.com/ShowProductDetails.cfm?Cat=84&Product=416

anyone who thinks hi vis is dorky is a f'kin idiot.
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PostPosted: 20:04 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ZZR Girl wrote:
I rode in the dark for the first time last night. It was OK but not helped by the fact it was also raining, so I was getting dazzled a bit. I wore my new hi-vis sleeved jacket for the first time. I don't wear it in the daytime but I wanted to be visible in the dark. Makes me look like the honey monster in it, but no-one knows who it is underneath the helmet. It's not meant to be a fashion statement after all!


Hey ZZ, Off topic but we have a mutual aquaintance, lets just say AC Cobra, M3 BMW, Portslade RM aeroplanes and currently in Cuba.
PM if you like.

Do you think that Hi-Viz gives you a false sense of security?
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