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Reppyboyo
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PostPosted: 22:02 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Almax chains. Reply with quote
Hi,

Ive been considering getting an Almax chain for whenever I need to venture into town and/or stop at anywhere unusual, does anyone own a Series III type?
If so so could you tell me how heavy it is?
Also what would be the reccomended length to get? (thinking of chaining the bike to a lamp post either on the road next to it or if possible on the path)

I would be shoving it in a back pack for the jorney, so the Series 4 looks waaaay too heavy to lug around, let alone on a bike.

Thanks for any help.
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I have 1.5 metre series 4 and yep it's weighty but they send you a carry bag which you can clip to your seat or wear as backpack.

Seriously good chain Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 22:10 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
What about locks.

The locks they supply, are they any good?

Or would it be worth spending 130 or what ever on a series 3 just for the chain and finding a decent lock somewhere else (well look at it this way..no point getting an indestructable (no exxageration Razz ) chain and have a lock that a mouse can chew through Very Happy )

Sorry for hijacking the thread but we are both on the same boat here Smile
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PostPosted: 22:13 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I paid £180 for chain (series4) squire padlock (heavy duty s**t !!) and hardie ground anchor as a package and honestly can't fault the deal.
Look at what oxfords etc are costing and read reports on almax it's a no brainer really Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 31 Oct 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
just check www.zedzed.co.uk for the best info on almax chains.
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PostPosted: 00:26 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chain & lock weights are as follows:

Series III 4.34kg/m
Series IV 6.51kg/m
Lock : 1.1kg
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PostPosted: 07:11 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
The locks Almax supply are very good, you'd struggle to find a better one at the same price. i'd go with the Squire personally.
As for chains, Almax every time.
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PostPosted: 11:22 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Chain Length & Weight
Almax Series III 1.0m 4.5kg
Almax Series III 1.5m 7.0kg
Almax Series III 2.0m 9.0kg
Almax Series III 2.5m 11.0kg
Almax Series IV 1.5m 10.0kg
Almax Series IV 2.0m 13.0kg
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PostPosted: 11:26 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
p.s got mine from https://www.sounddistribution.co.uk/products.asp?recnumber=178 and got a free lock bag and a little tool kit Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Thanks matey, thats awsome. Smile
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PostPosted: 15:46 - 01 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
I'd like to be able see some stats on what is used the most for stealing bikes, as there only resistant to hand operated ones.
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How often are they used when stealing a bike tho, sounds very effective if there that fast, but noisy i'm guessing. But saying that, they could probably of cut it & had the bike in the van in half a minute.

Would be intresting to see how they work, i wonder if they have allsorts of equiptment in the back incase they come up to some the bolt croppers can't cut.
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PostPosted: 00:05 - 02 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
irving wrote:
but it was only running for 5 seconds.


5s ?? Im guessing it wasnt long - but you'd struggle to cut through a dog-chain in just 5 sec with an angle grinder...

The figures I've seen quoted for the better chains is that its about 20-30 sec...
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I have the Almax Series III with the Squire padlock bought from Sound Distribution about a year ago. (The offer didn't include the lock bag/backpack or tool kit when I bought mine though Crying or Very sad Rolling Eyes )

Can't fault the quality of it though, and it certainly gives me peace of mind ... although IMO I think it's a bit hefty to be easily portable?!
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PostPosted: 06:37 - 02 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Misc wrote:
I'd like to be able see some stats on what is used the most for stealing bikes, as there only resistant to hand operated ones.


The Almax chain is the only one that hasn't been cropped. All the others (Oxford, English chain etc) can be cropped using the bike thief's standard tool, 42" Record croppers, but the Almax defeated those, and the far more expensive hydraulic croppers (on which it broke the blades) and even the fire brigade's jaws of life. It's the only chain that I'd consider for decent security.
The squire lock has a shouldered design that makes it difficult to get croppers in, and the lock mechanism itself is well protected, including sitting in a cage of steel rollers which makes it virtually impossible to cut through.
An angle grinder will get through any lock or chain in time, not in five seconds though.
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cruiser angel
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PostPosted: 07:58 - 02 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
Zimbo wrote:
Misc wrote:
I'd like to be able see some stats on what is used the most for stealing bikes, as there only resistant to hand operated ones.


The Almax chain is the only one that hasn't been cropped. All the others (Oxford, English chain etc) can be cropped using the bike thief's standard tool, 42" Record croppers, but the Almax defeated those, and the far more expensive hydraulic croppers (on which it broke the blades) and even the fire brigade's jaws of life. It's the only chain that I'd consider for decent security.
The squire lock has a shouldered design that makes it difficult to get croppers in, and the lock mechanism itself is well protected, including sitting in a cage of steel rollers which makes it virtually impossible to cut through.
An angle grinder will get through any lock or chain in time, not in five seconds though.


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That's exactly why I shelled out for mine.
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PostPosted: 19:59 - 02 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
irving wrote:

Was it all a dream then Rolling Eyes . I was there. I did it. £140 chain & lock. Normal grinder. Stainless steel cutting disc (these are not 'normal' cutting discs). No problem. Like a knife through butter. 5 seconds matey. After cutting the chain had a go at the lock too. Also no problem. Seconds too.


Wasn't an almax chain though, was it? Some expensive chains and locks are made of fairly soft metal and are relatively easy to cut, Almax use quality British manufactured steel alloy with boron and manganese, triple tempered and triple case hardened. I'm sorry, but you won't get through it in five seconds with an angle grinder, no mater what disc you use, you'd cut it eventually but it would take you a couple of minutes at least.
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PostPosted: 20:47 - 02 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote
irving wrote:
Was it all a dream then Rolling Eyes


Post a vid then dude.

Based on my experience - and Ive used the odd cutting disc tool before - I doubt I could cut much at all in 5 seconds even with a bench saw which has more power and can exert more pressure. Not even mild steel.
That doesnt mean its not true or not possible.

But a quick vid on the web would be the end of the debate.
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