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| Marcg868 |
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 Marcg868 World Chat Champion
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 Posted: 19:22 - 09 Nov 2006 Post subject: Careers question! |
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Reet nothing too brain taxing
Just after a few ideas and views from people who do these jobs or similar their oppinions.
Basically id like a I.T job, more on the servicing side of it if thats what you call it, for example building computers for example or installing them into work places as such.
Now as i dont have any experience id need some training type course wouldnt i? Or is there a place where could find entry style jobs in the Northwest (Greater Manchester Area, Warrington preferably)
Just after a bit of help really
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| Icey |
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 Posted: 19:44 - 09 Nov 2006 Post subject: Re: Careers question! |
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| bwfc4eva86 wrote: | Reet nothing too brain taxing
Basically id like a I.T job, more on the servicing side of it if thats what you call it, for example building computers for example or installing them into work places as such. |
No, really, you don't.
Building PCs really is a dead end these days and most businesses of a decent size will lease their kit making any hardware skills irrelevant. Thats not to say knowing how your average PC works and keeping up with technological advances is irrelevant...
Theres still a few people about who make a couple of quid building machines on a small scale (typically gaming machines) but the hours spent supporting them afterwards makes it finacially impossible to make living out of it.
I'm sure theres still money to be made in supporting small businesses, my first job was originally working for a small company which supported other small companies in the local area. There was enough work for 3 - 4 people to be paid a decent wage but that was many years ago.
Personally, after close to 10 years in IT, I've had enough. I wouldn't recommend it to anyone as a career.
There are people out there who live for IT, true geeks, if your not one of those, don't bother, you'll loose what little interest you had in IT within the first few years as its is pretty dull, thankless work, especially on the 'support' side.
I'm sure there are people who disagree, but this is just my opinion...
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Marc you cunt , I told you to come out with us on a ride out!
You missed an entry IT support role by 1 day at my work place ,if you announced this earlier say on Sunday during the watering hole stops you'd be informed about the opening at the company I work
for, and I'd have had a word with Anna. (who no doubt you'd try to slip one)
This position which was filled up by the junior there, they answer all our IT woes , come round fix our computers and drive round (in the company van) to client's businesses to set up their systems and sort out any tech support roles, the juniors to this role require fuck all qualies and the MSCEs are paid for by the company , and fuck about all day generally.
as an additional perk the mid tech is a hottie, and is VERY flirtatious , I nearly went for a 'ride' with last Friday.
ranting ape shit bit
which is more than I can say , cus I pay for my own training out of my own pocket whuile everybody else has theirs
paid for by the company and I haven't learnt a fucken thing since I started , shit I'm ranting badly now....
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 Posted: 02:23 - 10 Nov 2006 Post subject: |
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Hmmmmmmmmm im not into IT in a geeky way so this probably rules this out.
And yeah sorry about that itchy, still not had the chance see if i can get my helmet on without it hurting my face. Bruisings going tho
I just dont know what to do now career wise, im intrested in Travel, applied for a few cabin crew jobs, was intrested in IT but that is more of a hobby i think than a viable career path.
I am, when im doing my labouring intrested in scaffolding, uncles not got enough work to take me on full time tho so cant get trained up off him, so im rather stuck, not sure what to do.  ____________________ JACK, MISS YOU LOADS YOU LEGEND. |
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Assembling and repairing hardware isn't really much of a trade. There's only a certain number of components in a PC, and when one of them goes wrong you can either repair it or replace it: You don't need a specialist to do that for you.
If you really want to learn hardware, then go on dumpster-diving missions and fix up the old computers that you find. You'll probably find that more than half won't have a thing wrong with them though.
Once you're confident, just put an ad in the local paper saying you're an experienced pc technician: That's the quick&easy route.
If you want to make a career out of telling machines what to do, then train yourself up to be a sysadmin. You'll get to write code, build machines, set up networks, manage routers, and have complete administrative (and sometimes strategic) control over anything and everything that uses electricity at a site.
Downsides are very little sleep, very vague job descriptions (though that could be considered an advantage) and you're first in the firing line when things go wrong. Upsides are plenty of opportunities for travel and the money can be very good so long as you're prepared to sacrifice the 3-5 year's it'll take to get good.
You can start pretty much anywhere if you've got the incination for it. Forget managing windows systems - they change the rules far too often for any windows skills to be good for more than a couple of years. Get a thorough grounding in unix at operator level then at administrator level. Learn at least one shell and at least one scripting language. Get a good grounding in network protocols. Learn mail administration with at least one mail transfer agent. Learn web server administration with at least one web server. Learn some very basic electronics - just enough to pick up a multimeter and have half a clue what the numbers mean is good enough. Concentrate on learning the underlying principals rather than user interfaces - it'll be a lot less work in the long term and will leave you more prepared to tackle strange and unfamiliar systems.
A good place to start is with a very junior role in an IT or newmedia company (data entry clerk/office dogsbody). Volunteer for all the boring techie jobs that come up and study every chance you get. Be prepared to make bugger-all money for the first few years, but quietly make yourself indispensable and pad out your cv in that time.
The better you get, the more money you'll make. So long as you treat it as a professional trade rather than a geeky bit of tinkering, then you'll find that you've
got a decent trade skill that'll last you well past retirement. |
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I'd agree you seem to be playing wandering minstral like I did a few years ago , pick ONE industry and a spare , concentrateon it,
as I've said once before
indecision is like holding two icecreams in the desert , if you don't make your mind up quickly both melt, ____________________ Spain 2008France 2007Big one 2009 We all die. The goal isn't to live forever, the goal is to create something that will. In the end, your life will flash before your eyes. Make sure it is worth watching. |
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Old Thread Alert!
The last post was made 19 years, 284 days ago. Instead of replying here, would creating a new thread be more useful? |
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