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Mozzer
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PostPosted: 15:31 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Right... Winter Reply with quote

This is my first winter with a bike, and i'm seeing references to products to use...

What do I need to be doing to what parts of my bike, and how often?

I don't want to end up with a rusted heap of shit just because I didn't know to do something every now and again.... so... how do I keep it in it's normal condition in this weather?
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PostPosted: 15:38 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got some useful info here:

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=98068&highlight=

basically, rinse it down regularly (cold water, not hot) and make sure you have a good stock of WD40 Smile
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PostPosted: 15:50 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I prefer to use FS365. It contains a salt inhibitor that chemically binds with salt and neutralises it. After each ride just give the main dirty areas (and/or corrosion prone parts) a quick spray with a fine mist and leave. You only have to wash the bike once a week using this stuff.

Be carefull using WD40. I suppose it's ok to use on a clean bike, BUT it will not neutralise salt so if any 'gaps' are left in it's coating corrosion will take place.

Arrow Best also point out a quick myth regards FS365, yes it's water based and yes it will wash off easily..so most think whats the use in that, a wet day will wash it all off? Well yes some will but then it's a constant application product not a 'fit and forget' substance. However it any of it reacts with salt it forms a compound that is not water soluble and will coat the parts. Only soap will remove it then.
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Mozzer
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PostPosted: 15:53 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are the parts I need to be paying attention to then?

Forks, pipes, can, bolts and such?
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PostPosted: 16:02 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mozzer wrote:
What are the parts I need to be paying attention to then?

Forks, pipes, can, bolts and such?


Shock and shock linkage, fit a hugger too...
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extreme3d
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PostPosted: 16:03 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mozzer wrote:
What are the parts I need to be paying attention to then?

Forks, pipes, can, bolts and such?


Yep, Also unlike WD40, FS365 will not burn onto downpipes and hot engine parts so you can spray it anywhere without risk of leaving unslightly brown marks. So on my bikes I spray the following:

fork lowers
calipers
banjo bolts
underside of yolks
front of engine/manifolds
underside of engine/downpipes/collector box
front sides of engine
(Rear manifold on SV - it's a Vtwin)
radiator and oil cooler
rear shock
rear suspension linkages
swing arm pivot
rear lights assembly ( got metal tail tidys fitted but they get plastered in crud and FS365 helps to prevent it sticking)

It takes considerably longer to read all that then to actually apply the stuff. Typically it takes 30 seconds it that, only a fine mist is required. FS365 has worked well for me - the current pics in my sig were taken this summer after I had used the bike all last winter. Between it's weekly washes it was literally white with salt. As you can see it came through with zero corrosion Thumbs Up
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Keen
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PostPosted: 16:39 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

extreme, do you have shares in this FS365 stuff or what? Razz

what bike have you got? best would be to ask other owners on a bike specific forum what to watch out for, because different parts are prone to corrosion on different bikes. For example the pillion peg heel plates on my hornet turned to brown corroded shit straight away, I ended up having to hammerite them. I thought this was pretty weird but apparently its normal on hornets... luckily the rest of the bike is pretty tough though Smile
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PostPosted: 18:02 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

where do you get FS365 from?
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PostPosted: 18:19 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://goto.cream.org/protection
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PostPosted: 18:25 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:

what bike have you got?


Judging by his sig, a cbr400.

Does that mean you ended up wasting the guys time on ebay when you bought the smokin Joes vfr Mozzer?
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

wilbur wrote:
https://goto.cream.org/protection


£4.75 postage Evil or Very Mad yeah right go to any motorbike shop/dealers they sell it
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PostPosted: 21:19 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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£4.75 postage Evil or Very Mad yeah right go to any motorbike shop/dealers they sell it


Heh

I was really pointing out that is pretty easy to find.
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PostPosted: 21:26 - 10 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keen wrote:
extreme, do you have shares in this FS365 stuff or what? Razz


If I'm not carefull I'll end up getting an FS365 custom title Laughing

Seriously though, it's great stuff Thumbs Up

st3v3 wrote:
where do you get FS365 from?


Hein Gericke sell it or you can it direct from scottoilers website

https://www.scottoiler.co.uk/buyonline.asp
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PostPosted: 00:53 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Extreme, when do you put the FS365 on?

At the moment I'm coming back from a ride, rinsing the bike down with a hose, leaving it for a while to dry then spraying it with FS365.

Is it best to just put FS365 on without rinsing, or do it straight after rinsing?
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PostPosted: 01:37 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarkJ wrote:
Extreme, when do you put the FS365 on?

At the moment I'm coming back from a ride, rinsing the bike down with a hose, leaving it for a while to dry then spraying it with FS365.

Is it best to just put FS365 on without rinsing, or do it straight after rinsing?


There is no reason why you can't spray it on after rinsing but I've found just washing the bike once a week without rinsing is all thats needed. Just spray a fine mist on the bike after every ride. Essentially you will build up quite a layer of FS365 soaked dirt/salt over the week, but come wash day on Sunday it just slides off as soon as the soap hits it. The important thing to remember is that the salt will not be able to do any harm as it's been neutralized by the additives and is no longer able to act as a catalyst.

If I had to rinse the bike every day after a ride I would soon get bored using it and take the car instead. Bikes are meant to be more time saving than a car, not the other way around.

Arrow Sunday, wash bike, spray FS365 after drying (drying is VERY important - use the engines heat through idling it to dry the innards whilst you dry the outside with a towel).
Arrow Monday after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening.
Arrow Tuesday after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening
Arrow Wednesday after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening
Arrow Thursday after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening
Arrow Friday after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening
Arrow Sat after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening
Arrow Sunday wash bike and repeat list Very Happy
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PostPosted: 02:39 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Might be cheaper to get yourself a winter bike rather than trying to save the appearance of your pretty warm weather bike. I paid £200 quid for a GS550 last winter. 8 months MOT etc, rode it for six months and cost me 2 quid when I dropped it. Its in my garage at the moment but it will pass the MOT and will be used through this winter. Cost £10 to add it to my insurance.
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PostPosted: 12:09 - 11 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are a lazy rat biker your regime may well vary to


Arrow Sunday + Monday + Tuesday + Wednesday + Thursday + Friday + Saturday, after arriving home spray fine mist of fs365 over salt/dirt. (Time taken: 30 seconds) Leave bike alone and carry on with your evening.

I've not washed her since er I was in the south and that was cus I needed to change me brake pads and couldn't get
me spanner around the caliper bolts as the crap had built up about 30 layers and 20kilos of salt/dirt.
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