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dew
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Toyota Bast*%rds Reply with quote

My steering wheel was making noise and since it was under extended warranty from toyota, thought would be nice to get it replaced. gave the car in earlier today, and was sitting in pub (yeah tuesday..) having a nice pint ( no bike riding today), and this maggot called me and said i need to fork out 700 for repairs... Embarassed

Apparently, the steering rack is getting replaced under warranty but the subframe has some bolts frozen/seized and needs replacing... Mad which isn't covered by warranty. If i don't get it done, the car wont b safe to drive.. Thumbs Down So the only choice I have is to say yes Evil or Very Mad

Am sure they are making this up but hv no way to prove it.. Spoiled my afternoon , day and week Mad Am so pissed (and it's not 'cos am drunk).

WORST bit is that i don't have any way to prove anything? Am totally screwed and out of pocket. Sick
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

The joys of owning a dealer maintained car.
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PostPosted: 15:33 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

So basically they want to recoup the money for the parts and labour for the steering rack, so you’re warranty is not worth the paper it’s written on, question one is it a manufactures warranty, or is it under written by a two bit insurance company, themselves!!

What you want to do is look in you’re warranty book (if you have one) and see what’s covered, normally wear and tear items are not, i.e. brakes tyres exhaust etc, however if they have to remove a component to get to the warranty item (in this case steering rack) this is not you’re responsibility, what I would advise you to do is, all the components that you have to pay for, is ask the garage to keep them so that you can get them independently checked/ inspected by the AA, or a qualified engineer,

This will making the service manager sweat profusely, this is a common trick used in the motor industry to recoup there money back, as I said before they might even be giving you the extended warranty of there own back (other words they are underwriting the warranty) so its out of his costs
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dew
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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they might even be giving you the extended warranty of there own back

thanks for that.
i bought the toyota at inchcape last year and they FORGOT Shocked to put warranty on. So now i got a years warranty thrown in , no apologies! And the warranty is 'Inchcape warranty' as well. Evil or Very Mad This is making sense all of a sudden. Mad

As advised, am going to ask them to keep the components so that I can can get them independently checked. Do you know if AA would do that? Question

Cheers

PS: I will check the warranty book, i do have it in home!
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ken
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PostPosted: 16:25 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Inchcape, lease company? hmm

what year is you're car, is it out of manufactures warranty, 3 years 60k miles,

AA used to do it, so the best thing is to explain what's happened, and if they cannot help they will/should be able to give you the help/tell No's you need

for you to get you're parts checked, this will cost you tho, BUT the idea of this Exercise is to get the garage to believe that you are not gona lay down and take a pounding to the wallet without a fight, and chances are they will say OK pay for parts we will stand the labour or some other gesture to save face, stand and be counted dew


you are well within you're rights to get the parts back, as they are yours, unless they are under warranty Rolling Eyes see what I'm saying
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PostPosted: 18:00 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Siggi wrote:
Jesus. Why don't you take the car somewhere else and pay them to take a look at those specific parts (sub-frame etc) and give their opinion. That's about as revealing as it can get.


Do it.

I just went to Octagon Toyota in Reading and asked them how much it was to replace my buckled wheel. I also asked if they could inspect the suspension components because I figured an impact hard enough to buckle a wheel would have damaged something else.

They told me that they would do a free visual safety check (which would take an hour) to check suspension, brakes etc.

Now I'm sure this would include any deficiencies in the subframe...
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dew
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PostPosted: 22:21 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Inchcape, lease company? hmm

what year is you're car, is it out of manufactures warranty


It's not a lease car. I bought a toyota approved car which comes with extended warranty, which in this case was provided by inchcape (same name as dealership, possibly same owner) Evil or Very Mad

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Why don't you take the car somewhere else
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I would've gladly done that, but he specifically said that the vehicle would be unfit for road and dangerous to drive! Evil or Very Mad And howsoever much I distrust him, can't risk motorway driving, even if it's M25! Embarassed

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Now I'm sure this would include any deficiencies in the subframe...

The problem is had they not opened the steering assembly, the car was safe to drive, but now that they have opened, he strongly recommends fixing the same, and wouldn't sign on safety paper otherwise Middle Finger

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PostPosted: 22:38 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Are you in the AA / RAC? If so speak to them and see if they will send someone to inspect it.

All the best

Keith
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dew
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kickstart wrote:
Hi

Are you in the AA / RAC? If so speak to them and see if they will send someone to inspect it.

All the best

Keith


I am with (guessssssss...........), Inchcape Assist, which provides breakdown assistance Laughing Guess, am just out of luck!

Cheers!
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PostPosted: 23:11 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

don't give in dew, you can get the vehicle independently inspected on there premises, I'm sure they won't mind, unless they have something to hide?

or are you well off enough not to be bothered about the cost, and being ripped Shocked

I have only tried to help

take or leave it.

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dew
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PostPosted: 23:31 - 14 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ken wrote:
don't give in dew, you can get the vehicle independently inspected on there premises, I'm sure they won't mind, unless they have something to hide?

or are you well off enough not to be bothered about the cost, and being ripped Shocked

I have only tried to help

take or leave it.

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sorry, don't get me wrong, much appreciate your help on the same. I am going to find an independent mechanic.
Already told the guys to keep the part and am planning to pick it up when done!
I was laughing at the compound GOOD ,not, lucky day I am having!
I looked at the warranty booklet to find if it's covered? Tomorrow am going to find exact part name and check the prices..
Am not ready to be ripped off, not yet, and definately not for TOYOTA Confused
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PostPosted: 01:26 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Toyota Bast*%rds Reply with quote

dew wrote:


Apparently, the steering rack is getting replaced under warranty but the subframe has some bolts frozen/seized and needs replacing...


How do seized bolts make a subframe unsafe, or for that matter, require you to replace it?

I don't know much about cars, just a question.
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PostPosted: 02:10 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can't say that I know all that much about cars either, but I know from personal experience of Toyota dealers that I'm not exactly surprised by this thread.

I bought a Previa from new some years ago, and within months had to get the radiator replaced under warrantee. (I was told by an independant garage that there was a known design flaw in the 1999/2000 Previas).
Then within 6 months, we had exactly the same problem repeat itself, and the dealership tried to charge us £500+ for a job that in my opinion obviously hadn't been resolved properly the first time. Rolling Eyes

I'd originally paid over the odds for a car/brand that had a reputation for reliability, but after the number of problems and concerns we had in the four years of ownership I'd NEVER have another Toyota again.

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