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ColdInsomnia
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: *Dewy manholes won't do favours for your front fairing :( Reply with quote

...In Tesco Extra car park.

Arrrgh damn it! It was 1 am (don't ask), it hadn't rained for days, it was cold I guess, must have been some dew on the ground.

Went round the 90 degree corner, didn't see the manhole and went over at about 10mph. With a pillion on the back Sad

I tell you, a 600cc comes down with a hell of a bigger THUMP than a 125 :p I could have sworn I left a dent in the ground. Thank god for engine bars!


Well... unluckily for me, my first drop of this bike has also turned out to be an expensive one. Seems that I have a large crack just under the windscreen of my front fairing, as well as a smaller one to the side. I did check just after the fall for any damage (after tending to my pillion of course, who was fine), and didn't see any. It wasn't until the next day I noticed the crack... which is strange because it's a pretty big one and I'm sure I would have seen it the night before.

So either:

Someone came past in the night, and cracked my front fairing whilst I slept (not likely).

I cracked it when I fell and was too dozy to notice it when I checked (most likely).


Either way... I'm left with an expensive problem on my hands. As I'm sure you all know, a new front fairing will not be cheap.


BUT

Someone suggested to me that rather than spend money on a new fairing, spend half the money and turn my Divvy into a streetfighter. Neutral


I've found a picture of roughly what my Divvy would look like if I went SF - though this pic is a 900 whereas mine is a 600.

https://www.ydcn.nl/pics2/yxj900sj.jpg




....Opinions? Smile


PS: I'm sorry Vee Embarassed
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PostPosted: 17:21 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 17:25 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

unlucky m8....and it looks alot better lol do tht!!
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Forgot to include - this is roughly what my bike looks like WITH the fairing (It's the same colour as the one above though).

https://www.classicbikesregis.com/public/Yamaha%20Diversion%20600%20'94.JPG
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PostPosted: 17:37 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I doubt it was ice, probably the manhole cover was just damp from dew as you said which can make it as bad as ice.
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PostPosted: 17:40 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:
was just damp from dew


Quote:
must have been some dew on the ground


I was no where near that tesco car park m8! Laughing I have definite alibi. Wink


And yes, it does look better naked!

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PostPosted: 17:42 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Well so far it seems that I have support veering towards the Street fighter option...

My only concerns with going through with it are:

I'll need a new speedo and rev counter, won't I?
Top speed will take a hit without the wind protection... touring will be a lot harder.

Anything else I need to consider?
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PostPosted: 17:43 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

You should just be able to get a set of clocks and headlight unit from an 'N and swap it in instead. That first pic looks like an N with new mirrors and a twin light unit.

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PostPosted: 18:23 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Two words: plastic welding. If you can find the original paint you wont be able to see where its been repaired Thumbs Up Currently doing repairs on my CBR400 fairing which are quite extensive, but i have painted one of the fairings and the repairs become just about invisible. All you need is: a soldering iron, a broken CD case, a bit of patience and alot of practice! Only thing is you might end up repainting the entire panel so it doesnt mismatch! Oh yeah and DO NOT use fibreglass, its pants, the fairings on the CBR were previously fibreglassed and it seems to have done sweet fuckall! Good luck, sorry to hear about the off!
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PostPosted: 18:28 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: *Dewy manholes won't do favours for your front fairing : Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:


It looks like a GS500 Thumbs Down
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PostPosted: 18:41 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Aikman666 wrote:
Two words: plastic welding. If you can find the original paint you wont be able to see where its been repaired Thumbs Up Currently doing repairs on my CBR400 fairing which are quite extensive, but i have painted one of the fairings and the repairs become just about invisible. All you need is: a soldering iron, a broken CD case, a bit of patience and alot of practice! Only thing is you might end up repainting the entire panel so it doesnt mismatch! Oh yeah and DO NOT use fibreglass, its pants, the fairings on the CBR were previously fibreglassed and it seems to have done sweet fuckall! Good luck, sorry to hear about the off!



So... are you saying I should use a soldering iron on the broken CD case to weld the crack together?

I mean it's broken anyway so I don't mind playing around with it, I've got nothing to lose!
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PostPosted: 19:00 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Any particular reason you can't ride it with a cracked fairing?

That's what I'm doing now. Seems little point in paying for a repair/respray when it will make no difference to me whatsoever, but I still get the benefits of having a fairing. Plus it costs nothing Very Happy
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PostPosted: 19:03 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yoshi wrote:
Any particular reason you can't ride it with a cracked fairing?

That's what I'm doing now. Seems little point in paying for a repair/respray when it will make no difference to me whatsoever, but I still get the benefits of having a fairing. Plus it costs nothing Very Happy


Well... of course there's nothing stopping me riding it as it is, and of course I DO ride it with the cracked fairing.

But I'm one of those people that's very insecure so I need to make sure my bike is in very good cosmetic condition. And of course a cracked fairing won't do me any favours when it comes to resale time, so it's something I'll have to fix eventually anyway.
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PostPosted: 19:07 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 19:09 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:

But I'm one of those people that's very insecure so I need to make sure my bike is in very good cosmetic condition. And of course a cracked fairing won't do me any favours when it comes to resale time, so it's something I'll have to fix eventually anyway.


You're very insecure, so you bought a 600 divvy... ?

And streetfightered=crashed anyway so the same hit on resale value. Except as opposed to a slight crack making it obvious it was a small spill, you /could/ have had a full head on.

Dont get me wrong, i like streetfightered bikes, especially R1's, but if it aint broke dont fix it. Spesh not at the beginning of winter. At least leave it till the weather improves. You WILL drop it again, or at the very least cover it in cack. Im sure it wont bother you if its a knackered fairing piece already, but brand new stuff... you may cry
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a divvy, but an XJ600 none the less.

Let's say, been there, done that. Get the crack glued up or plastic welded. Doesn't have to be pretty, but you'll regret it if you rip it off IMO.

https://www.gaz-racing.co.uk/images/XJ/Full/DSCI0024(Small).jpg

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PostPosted: 20:06 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Basically what you do is make the crack worse before making it better, Basically this means that you weld down the crease of the crack on both sides until your sure that all the material has been welded back together. Then use the broken CD case to fill in the crack, make sure its nice and compacted, try to smooth off the surface as much as you can with the iron, then sand it down, and hey presto! Repaired!
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PostPosted: 20:13 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Worth remembering if its your only form of transport and you remove the screen, you also remove the weather protection. Not good this time of year.

There are a few places that will repair fairings, so if you want it done properly that might be theway to go. Wink
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PostPosted: 20:45 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is one of the least damaged fairings, however it still had two major repairs done to it before the spraying (its a basecoat btw). I'll kiss your ring if you can tell where they were done:
https://i96.photobucket.com/albums/l192/Aikman666/12112006004.jpg

If you have the money fair enough, get it done at a profesional place. However because im taking on this big project ive ended up doing alot of stuff myself, the fairings included and the painting of my subframe. Both of which have came up brilliantly so far, and it makes me proud to stand back and look at what i can do with my own two hands! Although you DO need a certain amount of patience to do this!
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PostPosted: 20:53 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

i think bakini fairings look gay (just my opinion) (i have a gs Very Happy so like the naked look Very Happy)
i think bikes should be all naked or fully faired, no half measures.
save the money and street fight it Very Happy
bollocks to the it'll be harder to tour with it and top speed
it probly wont make a hell of a difference, a little more wind, no major really you usually get it straight in the face from the screen redirecting the air any way.

i would street fight it, but thats just me Very Happy good luck with what ever you do Very Happy
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PostPosted: 21:18 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOW COULD YOU! Crying or Very sad


Cold, post a pic, it isnt the crack thats been there all along by any chance - l/h side?
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PostPosted: 23:36 - 15 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It might be worth giving Yamaha (or a dealer) a ring as often parts for bikes that are not 'sports' bikes are a lot cheaper than you might think. After my SV was knocked over by a car deciding to do a u-turn it was sent off to be repaired at York Suzuki. Got the estimate done by them and was amazed to see a complete new front fairing WITH stickers was only £163 Shocked Thumbs Up

So give a dealer a ring and ask - it may be cheaper than you thought to just get a new one. Failing that, there is always ebay.

Think long and hard before S-Fightering it. Riding a bike without a fairing is not fun, especially in winter Wink
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PostPosted: 02:42 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
Aikman666 wrote:
Two words: plastic welding. If you can find the original paint you wont be able to see where its been repaired Thumbs Up Currently doing repairs on my CBR400 fairing which are quite extensive, but i have painted one of the fairings and the repairs become just about invisible. All you need is: a soldering iron, a broken CD case, a bit of patience and alot of practice! Only thing is you might end up repainting the entire panel so it doesnt mismatch! Oh yeah and DO NOT use fibreglass, its pants, the fairings on the CBR were previously fibreglassed and it seems to have done sweet fuckall! Good luck, sorry to hear about the off!



So... are you saying I should use a soldering iron on the broken CD case to weld the crack together?

I mean it's broken anyway so I don't mind playing around with it, I've got nothing to lose!


Nooo! Get some Plastex, you can fix the crack so it's actually stronger than the surrounding plastic. It's excellent stuff, Ive fixed shedloads of broken plastic with it.
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PostPosted: 03:21 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks a lot for all the replies...

As quite a few of you pointed out I'll be missing the fairing quickly enough with winter approaching, so I will keep it throughout the winter at least Smile

Really sorry Vee Sad I'll give you a picture tomorrow but no, it's not the one that was already there (Though that is in fact the other one I mentioned, oh well, at least it's not all my work Wink )
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 16 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

ColdInsomnia wrote:
Thanks a lot for all the replies...

As quite a few of you pointed out I'll be missing the fairing quickly enough with winter approaching, so I will keep it throughout the winter at least Smile

Really sorry Vee Sad I'll give you a picture tomorrow but no, it's not the one that was already there (Though that is in fact the other one I mentioned, oh well, at least it's not all my work Wink )

The one in the picture was a car reversing into it and driving off on the previous owner - the git Evil or Very Mad
I'm sure its fixable, after all its a divvy Razz
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