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jay_666
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PostPosted: 22:36 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

Im trying to get insurance for a first car...

Thing is, im 17, just passed test so no noclaims/ experience in their eyes (even tho i been on the roads for over a year and a half grrrr!)

Basically, i want a ford capri Cool
im having trouble getting quotes for the 1.6 laser model.
Im after an old cheap one, only worth about a grand at the most, so something dating to <1987 Laughing

cheapest quote ive had was £3098 TPO Shocked
Its fooking ridiculous!

Got any recomendations? Neutral
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

Sorry, the answer is to get a small cc 'boring' car - and even then you'll still be paying a lot.

You could look at getting someone else to insure it and add you as a named driver, but this can get dodgy.
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PostPosted: 22:42 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

jay_666 wrote:
Basically, i want a ford capri Cool

Got any recomendations? Neutral


Want, need and afford are different things. Having a dream is nice, no matter how unrealistic though.
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PostPosted: 22:43 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

I dont like small cc 'boring' cars like corsas and clios etc.

Infact i hate them. They're clit cars: every cunts got one.

I want something different, something old but cool.
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PostPosted: 22:46 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

mchaggis wrote:
Want, need and afford are different things. Having a dream is nice, no matter how unrealistic though.


I can afford the car, i can afford to run it, its just the insurance Sad

And i could do with a car really, the bike isnt always practical.
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PostPosted: 22:47 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

Then you'll be paying a hell of a lot for the privilege.

A long time ago I liked the idea of having a 'different' vehicle. Then I realised a lot of 'popular' ones were popular because they were actually good at what they do - one of the factors being value for money.

While my tarty side still likes the idea of being 'different' - my logical side has realised that if I'm not, I can do all sorts of different things with the money saved - in your case, so far we see about £2k.

Ignoring the racing, with that I could learn to paraglide and get a cheap glider - not only is it 'different', but I'd find it a lot more enjoyable than driving round in a vehicle that most will think "old crap" and a few will think "cool" about Smile.
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PostPosted: 22:51 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I could only just afford the insurance for a cx 500 when I passed my test just over 5 years ago now I can only just afford the insurance on my zzr 1200

besides, your 17, if you were riding you couldnt have anything greater than 33bhp untill 19 if you passed your test at 17, so its not all doom and gloom


the thing is, the capri is a rather fast sports car with a rather long front end which I believe was prone to being hit as you had to stick it out somewhat at junctions to see
No you my lad fall into the catagory of braindead idiot so there fore you are a hell of a lot more likely to stuff it than someone 31 years old, whos marrid 3 kids and works in a bank.

ok so I dont know you from adam so how can I say this? I can't but insurance companys do.
the only way for you to afford to drive is to get a crappy little run about and start building up the no claims bonus, as soon as you hit 21 your premiums will go down
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PostPosted: 22:54 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

And its rear wheel drive Razz
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PostPosted: 23:09 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

jay_666 wrote:
And its rear wheel drive Razz

And they know this......which is why they expect you to end up in a hedge with it at some point. Laughing
Get a micra and a face mask so nobody will see you. Wink I paid 1200 pounds a year on my first car, a 650 pound vauxhall belmont gls. Rolling Eyes It sucks but it will come down when your 25-6, just dont crash.
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PostPosted: 23:15 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

or mod it like stick alloys on it, sometimes that can void your insurance completely
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Re: Having trouble getting insurance for first car Reply with quote

jay_666 wrote:

I can afford the car, i can afford to run it, its just the insurance Sad


Then I'm afraid you cannot afford to run the car.

Dont forget you'll also be paying £160 for TAX and MOT's every year. On a car that old you will need to keep on top of things. Buy a cheap Capri and it's probably going to be a sh*t heap!

Better off with a 1.0l fiesta to pootle around in for a while until you build up some NCB. Take comfort in the fact that 99% of drivers have been through the same thing. There's no shame in it.
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PostPosted: 23:18 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

It is regarded as a sporty car, so not really a hope in hell that you are going to get a decent insurance quote with effectively zero car no claims.

Put it this way, someone we know managed 2 weeks in their first car after passing their test recently before writing it off. And that was with experience on a moped before learning to drive. Insurance company have made a hell of a loss and know that the same will happen with a lot of people who have just passed their tests.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:29 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's expensive but not that expensive. You should be able to get it down to around £1200-1300.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:
It's expensive but not that expensive. You should be able to get it down to around £1200-1300.


Doubt it. Would expect that for a Nova or something like that.

All the best

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PostPosted: 23:56 - 21 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most i ever paid for insurance was £1500 on a fiesta turbo. Admitedly i was 18 but still fresh from my test with no ncb. The following year with 1 yr ncb i payed £700 to insure a modified calibra turbo.

There are cheap deals out there if you are prepared to do a lot of ringing around.

At 17 they will charge you close to a grand no matter what you drive because you're a bad risk, it's a sort of default price. Then they'll add to it depending on the car/location ect.
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PostPosted: 01:09 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I can get insurance on a 1.6 capri for something like 800 quid, from www.ecarinsurance.co.uk and im 17.
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PostPosted: 01:16 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

john2 wrote:
I can get insurance on a 1.6 capri for something like 800 quid, from www.ecarinsurance.co.uk and im 17.


Did a rough quote for my postcode for a 17 year old. £1253 tpft, and extra £200 for tpo.

Cheaper than I expected.

All the best

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PostPosted: 01:44 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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My tactics are find an insurance company, pay your first installment over the internet which will be no more than fifty quid, then once you've got your paperwork through cancel all dd's and then drive or ride 'very, very' carefullly. This way will cost you one payment every year. Twisted Evil Thumbs Up

Does that have any advantge to just making your own insurance certificate in Word? As neither is worth anything, I see little point in paying £50 when you might as well just do it yourself for free. Wink
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PostPosted: 02:02 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Teaman wrote:
or mod it like stick alloys on it.


I had this problem, I decided to declare my non standart fit alloys, the only insurers who would take me under 25 with them actually declared as a modification were Footman James, an insurance company reccommended to me in a previous thread by Stinkwheel.

Car. Rover 214i 16v, 98 R reg : Me. 17 years old.
Alloys undeclared - £1300 compy with Direct Line.
Alloys declared - £1800 comp with Footman James.

Even the performance insurance and the mod friendly brokers would tolerate covering a set of £500 alloys no matter ANY price, was always "Company policy outrules modification to the vehicle of ANY kind if the main driver is under 25 years of age"

Well, I have paid for the comfort of having a fully legit first car, of all things I think that this is most important when starting out, I do not want problems with the legalities of my car costing me a fecking fortune if my little schemes to save a couple of hundred notes for the first year's payment and I am involved in an incedent that results in me being violently shafted for driving without valid insurance.

A quote after such an episode would make the puny former now look like a pencil sellotaped to the back of morbidly fat person from the full frontal view.

I would reccommend to others to do the same, with a car.

With a bike, there are certain liberties to be taken with a pinch of salt.

The lack of checking bikes allows this in my current view of recent events, cars always seem to be rammed to hell for misdomeners, and of course mopeds, be it for little or no L plates.

I am entitled to later defend allegations THAT, I have no balls and am a goody two shoes sissy-girl law abiding fag.


Largley thought about comment seemingly over.

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PostPosted: 02:02 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Try getting it insured TPFT. Recently getting quotes for a Thunderace, I found TPO quotes were around £1360, whereas TPFT was about £640. And that was just Bennetts.
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PostPosted: 02:14 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Liverpool Victoria used to be brilliant for people with fast cars. You insured the car as standard then you could basically do any modifications you wanted at no extra cost. The only catch was that in the event of a write off you only got paid out for a standard car. But you could insure the mods too at extra cost.

So there were loads of 17/18 year olds buying and insuring a 1.2 nova/corsa/fiesta ect for peanuts then sticking 2L turbo engines in.

Didn't last long though once everyone jumped on the bandwagon. After a couple of years they upped it to over 21's only. And now they are tight arses just like every other insurance co.
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PostPosted: 08:01 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you want something different, get a fiat 500 ! that'll get your quotes down!
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PostPosted: 08:09 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

DonTony wrote:

My tactics are find an insurance company, pay your first installment over the internet which will be no more than fifty quid, then once you've got your paperwork through cancel all dd's and then drive or ride 'very, very' carefullly. This way will cost you one payment every year. Twisted Evil Thumbs Up


You'll find it's now compulsary to return the motor insurance certificate if you cancel the policy.
If you aren't prepared to pay for insurance, then get off the fucking road.
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PostPosted: 09:34 - 22 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

m99dws wrote:

You'll find it's now compulsary to return the motor insurance certificate if you cancel the policy.
If you aren't prepared to pay for insurance, then get off the fucking road.

They can't force you too - you may have lost it.
However, they will ask you to sign something to say you've lost it most probably.

If you're stopped by the police, they can check on their database to see if you're insured. If you're not, I wouldn't be surprised if they do check up on their certificate.
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