need a new 125 bike>???

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hello everyone... now i know theres a lot of these kind of posts but im not looking for the usual kind of bike...
im looking for a second bike.nothing too expensive,pre 2000 in year.and cos im on a c.b.t. no more than 125cc.ive got a enduro look bike now,so im after something a little different.im not into the sports bikes and dont like the laid back harley looking types.?does this leave many options??im not a small bloke so preferebly something big and defo a 4 stroke.i dont want the 2 stroke noise...speeds not too inportant as long as itll do 55mph fairly comfortably.preferably the open sides type bike rather than the fairings.and defo not a cg...i cant stand bikes like that,sommit that looks fairly cool and maybe looks bigger cc than it actually is..?not asking for much,appreciate any suggestions...oh and a max of £1200.-although not too bothered about age.
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[Regan28]

Why not, instead of buyin another bike, buya block of lessons and do your full licence, trust me you won't look back

[Stiffler]

Well you've narrowed it down to almost none existence!

The bike that most closely matches you description was the CG or YBR until you said you didn't like them... Next it would probably be a hyosung comet 125:

https://i6.photobucket.com/albums/y221/D4RLO/Image000.jpg
Photo taken from d4rlo

Or the honda varadero 125:

https://www.motoplanete.com/125/Varadero125.jpg

After that I'm struggling for good suggestions!

Tim
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well funny enough after xmas im gonna do my das.but not to ride bigger bikes 125cc is more than enough for me im just sick of the L plates...it seems to me that once u get past the 125cc mark the repair bills just keep going up,as well as the insurance,fuel costs e.c.t.for me thats not what road bikes are about,for me there about cheap transport. and im just not that interested in road bikes to go that far.dont get me wrong i love riding bikes,its just that i dont feel i need more than what a 125 can offer..does that make sense??id search google for a bike that i loke the looks of but i just havent got a clue what to do a search on...i only know about enduro bikes...
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i like the look of the top one,maybe not that colour? but the only thing i dont like about it is the seating position...it looks like id be lying on the tank.but i do like the seating on the second one,but not too keen on the rest of the bike cos it sorta looks like a enduro type bike..is there anything in between the 2?
the more i look at that top one the more i like it...it looks way bigger than a 125cc.gonna have a look on ebay for some prices and maybe a black one would look a bit better...thanks.
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[sunbear]

Mate, save your money for when you have done your test. Then get a CB250 or something. Wont cost much extra at all for running costs
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Bikes had : BMW F650, suzuki tr50, gt125, SV400, GSXR600 SRAD. Honda CBR900RRP, CBR600FX, CBR1000F, VT600, Transalp 600, mtx125, nsr125r, CB500T, Yamaha fy50, tzr125, tdr125, XV535, Diversion 600, Fazer 600, TDM850 MK1 & MK2, Majesty 400, XV 1100. Cagiva mito evolution, Aprilia rs125, Piaggio x9 125. DNA 125 . Suzuki Bandit 600, GZ125 Marauder, RF600 , RF900RS2, Kawasaki ZZR400, ZX6R Ninja, ZZR600 . Ducati 750 Sport . Triumph Tiger 955i. CURRENT : 2004 Kawasaki Z750 and LOVIN IT !

[AJ]

Hi the Varadero is a huge bike went to look at one last weekend I am 5`11 and looked small on this bike the piccys just dont show the size. Also its a V twin and it's supposed to be a really comftable ride and reliable as well. A full tank should get you 300 miles. I am looking at either the varadero or the NSR just cant make up my mind yet.

Another one to look at is the Yamaha TDR

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thanks for all your replys...
i know i said i didnt want a sport style bike.but ive been looking at a cbr125.it looks a really nice bike.the prices dont look to bad either.im gonna have a search about for info on them ,and see if i can get one for a decent price....
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[JBurrows88]

CBR 125


Is quite expensive but can cruise nicely at 65/70


They are a four stroke which maked them more realible than a 2-stroke like the NSR or RS. They are honda so you prob. wont find one that is under £1200.

I bet because its a honda you will find parts and the overall realibility quite good (Honda's are bullet proof )

The cheapest CBR125's usually round £1200/£1300 have 10/15k miles and quite often have light damage from a fall.

[scott666]

CBR125 is a good bike in my opinion, done just over 10,000 miles on mine in the time ive had it. In that time its been crashed and stolen and it is still going strong. Do all your own servicing which isn't that hard to keep the costs down even further.

People say that they are expensive to fix but i have first hand experience and thats not entirely true (unless you need things like a front wheel lol. It will sit quite comfortably at 70 and will eventually reach a tad over 80 (indicated) and im 6ft2 and 12 stone so not too bad. I also do a lot of high revving motorway miles on the weekends and had no problems as of yet.

As you can see i highly rate the CBR and so do many other owners but obviously its up to you.

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thanks for the info...i must have been looking at the wrong bike before,as i was finding prices under 1k for them.ill find one somewhere.
insurance isnt a problem,my gy125 is a trials type bike and thats only £62 p/year.
and i do all my own repairs too so im not too bothered about that side of things..just to try and find one cheap.any idea what the bhp is on one?
and is it possible to de-restrict/tune the engine in any way?
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[scott666]

There isn't really any way to tune them without some serious engine work. Power is 13 bhp which i think is the learner limit anyway?? You would be lucky to get one for under a grand without quite some damage. They seem to be going for around 12-1500 on ebay but if your willing to stretch your budget a little give George whites a ring as i picked up my repsol one for £1800 with 7 delivery miles on it so can't fault that.

My insurance is £216 TPFT with MCE and im 20 with 1 yr NCB and the bike is garaged. Was £226 last year with no NCB again with MCE.

In regards to derestricting four strokes aren't restricted. You may get a whole 1BHP with a sports can but that would still be optimistic, they just sound and look better (stock sounds good though)

[Marcg868]

If your looking for a CBR 125, a lad i know who's name on here is Kiss my Rs. is selling his 2004 Reg in Blue for 1300.

Its in Immaculate condition, hasnt been dropped etc.

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=100786

Not the greatest pictures of his bike at the Bottom, but it looks similar to mine which is also pictured in the thread.

The only difference between mine a 2005 and his which is a 2004 model is mine has a black belly pan and his has a Grey belly pan.

Excellent bikes tho and will happiley sit on the motorway at 70/75 mph all day long
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is there any way to get a 2 stroke to sound a bit more beefy?not as tinny,if you know what i mean?
i really like the cbr look, i just thought they would have a bit more power than that.i was hoping for somewhere closer to 30bhp.
i know thats not legal but im gonna do my das after xmas so it wont matter too much.
i think if im gonna go for a sports style bike ill regret it if its too slow.
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[Marcg868]

[scott666]

The cbr has more than enough power. I have a zx6r sitting on my drive at home that my father has giving me but i find the cbr more than suits my needs until next summer when i go touring europe on the zx6r after uni.

I used to have an NS125 and the sound was annoying. So high pitched and it sounded well gay but the cbr has a nice sound to it. The cbr also has better low down grunt than the NS did so better around town.

[Marcg868]

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the reason im put off by 13bhp is because my gy125 is recorded as having around 13bhp,and my bike is just sooo slow.maybe the cbr might be quicker than mine,as mine is probably only around 7bhp in reality.im gonna have to have a go of one before i decide.been thinking about it and i definately dont want a 2 stroke.like you say the noise is just,well stupid really.
ill see if i can get a test ride on one from somewhere and go from there...
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[scott666]

The gearing is probably the difference between your GY125 and the CBR125. Seriously even though its only 13bhp its good for 70-75 happily all day long and have seen higher speeds at times.

The only other really sporty 4 stroke 125s are the sachs XTC and the Hyosung gt125. Both nice bikes but don't make more power than the CBR plus the CBR is lots cheaper and a Honda (peace of mind).