Bike thiefs?

[stevie-p]

Does anyone know exactly how bike thiefs operate, i was just wondering if they just roam around looking for bikes they want or do they scope out an area first checking for bikes parked in a regular spot. just wanted to know because where my girl friend lives there isn't anything to chain my bike to and i like to park right outside so i can keep an eye on it.

[Whosthedaddy]

Chain it through or round a cars wheel.
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[stevie-p]

she doesnt have a car and i dont think the neighbors will be to thrilled if i start that

[mr.z]

It depends on the type of bike..

A shiney bike will attact organised criminals, they'll see it/hear about it, have a van, and it will go.. a friend of a friend had every security device you could think of, parked behind a van and right under his bedroom window.. 2days of owning this brand new goldwing it was gone, there were scrape marks on top of the van where thye'd got a lift of some sort to pull it accross..

A ratty/small bike/scooter is what opertunists/chavs will go for, provided you have a decent lock or two it should be fairly safe, it will be 400% safer if its kept well out of sight and under a cover.
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[stevie-p]

i cant really keep it out of sight but i do keep a cover on it because i heard they are more likely to over look it if its coverd

[ColdInsomnia]

As said above... there are mainly two types of thieves (though both of them are scum deserving to have their flesh peeled off).

Opportunists are the most common... Scally walks down the street at 2am, and spots a (usually small) bike or moped, walks up to it, looks for any locks, and if it's clean wheel it away there and then. A decent chain will keep them at bay since they don't usually carry around tools with them (though their mates are always just a phone call away.. as was in my case). The bigger the bike, the less likely it is to be nicked by these types.

Professionals (for want of a better word) will usually plan the theft out over a few weeks, or in some cases a few days. They will look at the bike one night for security, observe your schedule of when you come home, when you get up in the morning, and alter their diabolical scheme. Due to the high level of work involved, they'll normally only go for bikes that are worth a lot of money for their "efforts". The more expensive the bike, the more likely it is to attract them.

There's not really any way to stop a thief that REALLY wants your bike, short of killing them or severely crippling them, but of course in this backwards country that's immoral so your best bet is to lock it up to every brick available in your house and pray for the best.

And one of those dogs that likes to bark whenever someone comes near the house helps too
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[mr.z]

If its locked on its not worth the effort... its a deterant, like locks, they see a cover locked on its not worth the effort.. you could rig a "personal attacck" alarm to the cover and you'd certainly know if it was tampered with..
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[stevie-p]

what about data tag and alpha dot how much of a deterant are they because both are on my bike, got the stickerson the tank to saying so

[Whosthedaddy]

[mr.z]

Well a dirty chav wont give the faintest shit, because it'll be set on fire at some point later anyhow..

But "professional" theves hate them ,because it can trace all the parts back to them, considering how any parts there are thats a big risk..
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[ColdInsomnia]

As with most things it's just risk vs reward.

The thief will view it as "Is it worth taking 15 minutes cutting this chain to steal this 15 year old moped?" No, of course it's not.

"Is it worth risking alphadot to steal this 7-grand bike?" Most would say yes.

7 grand, or a slap on the wrist.
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[freestyler_onli]

So how exactly is alphadot applied then - ie - how many bits need tagging?

[Whosthedaddy]

[lozzypop1]

Around here there seems to be mostly 'stolen to order'.
Example: Couple of weeks ago a friend had his bandit 6 stolen from outside his place of work in broad daylight!
Imagine a Waste depot, vans in and out all day....
3 bikes parked in roughly the same area 5 days a week...
A Blackbird
A VN800
and the Bandit
Bandit parked in between the other bikes... His was the only one to get pinched!

They knew it was there!
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[freestyler_onli]

Hmmmm.

Well ta for the alphadot info. Ill look into that!

It's a sh*t when a bike gets nicked i bet!

[ColdInsomnia]

[freestyler_onli]

I bet. I'd probably cry like a girl.

Fortunately ( i use that word loosely) none of my bikes have been taken away from me by means of stealing - they just get involved in crashes - at least that way i know it's gone and there is someone to blame.

[shammon]

All good advice there.

Locks Alarms and deterends & do only one thing
BUY YOU TIME.

The longer it takes to steal a bike the more likley they will be herd or seen stealing it, Now the other prob is if a van comes you can expect at least 2 people to lift it on and in and i bet they will be tooled up with either a knife or a large screw driver. The will anticipate confrontation but wish to avoid it.

How many times have you herd an alarm go of on a car? well people will think that of the bike! "its just another dodgy alam" when in fact its your bike getting nicked. So make sure YOU can hear it no one else will prob give a fuk, and go back tro sleep.

As above they will watch you and plan there steal, so make it as unpredictable for them as possible. Alarm what you can where you can and MAKE SURE the bike is chained to the ground otherwise its easy to lift up and off it goes in the van.

My last bit of advice is no matter where or when keep the bike locked and the steering lock on even if its for 5 mins because thats all it takes to take it,
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[stevie-p]

what about a decent chain, anyone got any recommendations. this isn't just paranoia by the way i had my car nicked the other day and dont want that sick angry feeling again cos it will be ten times worse with my bike.

[_Will_]

[Zanx]