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Dovey
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PostPosted: 22:17 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Respray? Solid or metalic? Reply with quote

Im looking to re-spray my Cbr 400. (its in primer atm)
and i can afford a professional job, So i was wondering, Would Matelic or solid Colour paint be best to hide any small imperfections in a amuture spray job???

Many thanks,
Diana
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gixxersixx
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PostPosted: 22:27 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

its not so much wether its metalic or solid colour but you will find lighter colours will generally not show imperfections as much as darker colours
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Dovey
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PostPosted: 22:45 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

so, a light metalic or light solid colour???
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PostPosted: 23:21 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I disagree, the darker the colour the more it will hide any imperfections. About the hardest colour to paint is metallic silver, that is because any tiny imperfections in the prep work will be highlighted.

A solid colour is better too for hiding imperfections, because the paint is a one straight colour and you can flat and polish it to remove the sharpness to the eye of minor imperfections lurking underneath. Once a metallic colour is sprayed over dodgy prep work it will never lie flat and once the clear topcoat is applied you are stuffed. You can't do anything about it, all you can do is flat and polish the lacquer and that will not remove any dodgy marks in the prep work cos they are under the basecoat.

How do I know all of this? Because I cut my teeth doing it for a living at one time.
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PostPosted: 23:30 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I believe Metalic is harder to paint well?

If so, then a solid colour might be better to go for.

As they say; 'Matt black FTW'.
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The Tot
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PostPosted: 23:54 - 30 Nov 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Matthew black for the win too!

I'm having my bike resprayed at the moment. I was given the option for solid/gloss/matt or metallic, i opted for matt black with lacquer because it looks stealthier.

Metallic looks tarty. Matt & solid colours look bold yet understated Thumbs Up . Also, get somebody else that knows their stuff to do it. Prepwork DOES take a substantial amount of time. Skimp on this, and people WILL find out. you want a 3 foot minter, well, if you forget to preheat the oven before you stick in the turkey, you'll be left with a 30 foot minger, and that's from personal experience when i spent just under 48 hours prepping and painting my bike!
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 07:19 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are doing it yourself, I guess you will be doing it a bit at a time, in which case, definitely go for the solid colour. The hardest part with metallic paint is getting a consistent finish unless you keep absolutely everything the same, which is almost impossible in bloke-in-shed world.

Using cans it's particularly hard because the pressure when you start a tin is different to when you finish it.

For cheap, easy to paint and also easy to rectify any problems, you can't beat white. Not to everybody's taste, but I think black and white or white with fancy burgundy bits makes a great looking bike.

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Cillit-BANG
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PostPosted: 10:25 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

I presume in the original post you mean't to say you can't afford a professional job?

If so, then metallic rattle-can work always looks poor. I'm not a big fan of metallic bike paint anyway.

I'm with Finpos, white always looks nice.


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PostPosted: 10:52 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its one of the worst time of year to be doing a shed respray, the humidity is way too high.

Are you planning a spray can or a compressor and gun?

Generally its the shine in a spray job that shows the imperfections so white is pretty good at hiding minor stuff since its hard to get a high gloss finish.
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PostPosted: 16:15 - 01 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go with the metallic, aslong as you are going to be patient. Im currently spraying my fairings (which were originally smashed/scratched to peices) metalic black. However its due a repsol Vinyl kit to distract/cover imperfections aswell so i wont worry.

Oh yeah its a CBR400 im spraying aswell Thumbs Up This is the final colour on the first fairing ive sprayed, the rest of them are just primed for now as ive no time between school/work!

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PostPosted: 01:25 - 03 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

MattEMulsion wrote:
I disagree, the darker the colour the more it will hide any imperfections. About the hardest colour to paint is metallic silver, that is because any tiny imperfections in the prep work will be highlighted.

Completely arse backwards, the darker the colour the easier it is to spot the fuck ups etc.
The best colour for hiding fuck ups happens to be metalic silver.. Rolling Eyes


MattEMulsion wrote:
How do I know all of this? Because I cut my teeth doing it for a living at one time.

Thank fuck you no longer do it...
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PostPosted: 11:08 - 03 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cillit-BANG wrote:

If so, then metallic rattle-can work always looks poor. I'm not a big fan of metallic bike paint anyway.

An ex-member of here did my tail section with rattle-can metalic paint; put a decent amount and effort into it and it came out very well; indistinguishable from an original panel.
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 03 Dec 2006    Post subject: Reply with quote

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