People's Petition update...

[JonB]

Just got this in an email from the People's Petition committee. Don't forget, if you are FOR animal testing and haven't already done so, sign up in the petition for this good cause. The URL is at the bottom of the email.

Dear Jon B,
Thank you for supporting the People's Petition. As 2006 draws to a close, many of us will be taking stock of the year and its achievements. This is certainly the case at the Coalition for Medical Progress, for whom 2006 has been incredibly successful. Thanks to your support, not only does the People's Petition now stand at almost 22,000 signatures, but we have also appeared on numerous radio and TV programmes and written and contributed to articles in local and national newspapers and magazines. And this is perhaps one of the best outcomes of the People's Petition: it's got people talking about the use of animals in medical research - whether it's on TV, on blog sites, or simply in the pub. Many of you will have seen the BBC documentary Monkeys, rats and me: Animal testing last week, which highlighted the direct impact of animal research on medical advances. The fact is we have all benefited, to a greater or lesser extent, from such research, whether it's simply as a result of vaccinations or more profoundly like the young man featured in the documentary. Stories like his are incredibly powerful and can really help people understand the continuing need for research using animals. If you have a story to share with us, and, perhaps, the media - whether medical progress has had an impact on your life or that of a loved one, or maybe you are currently waiting for a medical breakthrough - we would love to hear from you, so please do drop us an email. May I take this opportunity to thank you for your continuing support and to wish you compliments of the season and a very happy new year.
With best wishes
Jo TannerChief
Executive Coalition for Medical Progress

www.medicalprogress.org www.thepeoplespetition.org
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[froggeh]

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Animals and humans are quite different. It seems there is little to be gained, except money for those involved.

[Rookie]

[zaknafien]

[tribal_tiger]

I'm all for animal testing for medical means. Cosmetics, fair enough, ban that.

[feef]

[.....]

I work for a pharmaceutical company which spends millions and millions a year on R&D which includes animal testing. In an ideal world this wouldn't be needed but you can't escape the fact it's a necessary evil. You try telling the thousands of people that have been kept alive or cured from diseases ranging from diabetes to cancer that the animal testing that resulted in their drugs was a bad thing.

Say you are against animal testing and get cancer - are you going to reject potentially life-saving drugs to preserve your morals? Bollocks are you. You'll take those drugs and thank the scientists who developed those drugs using animals.

Plus the people who come and demonstrate outside my work are hardly good representatives for the anti-animal testing argument - there dole-scum with nothing better to do. Bunch of pikey numpties who know nothing about what they are protesting against who base their arguments on pictures of a few dead kittens.

[tribal_tiger]

[froggeh]

[tribal_tiger]

OK, I didn't say i thought you were funny. Trust me, your not.

I find funny the fact that people who are against the use of animals to make life saving drugs are fine with killing them for fashion.

Now, you disagree with the "unnecessary cruelty". What would this be? What is to be deemed unnecessary? A few animals could save millions, would you save the lives of a few purpose bred rats over the life of millions of humans?

I'll repeat my last question to you, what alternatives would YOU suggest?
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All of it.

[zaknafien]

I'd happily sacrifice a million purpose bred rats if it saved a human life.
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02 Firestorm.

[froggeh]

[craigie b]

I disagree, having owned both cats and dogs, they do show a significant degree of emotional attachment to their owners (more so than most humans seem capable of ) and experience excitement, happiness, anger etc. But I suppose this is an area that could be argued till either is blue in the face.

[craigie b]

Let me see where to begin.....

My cat will run to me when he heres the jingle of my keys, but no one elses. He assosciates me with as the person who looks after him.

The severity of him meowing when left out depends on how desperate, how cold, wet etc it is outside. If its a sunny day he'll roll over for his belly to be stroked.....if its pissing with rain there is an urgency, nearly pissed of tone to his shout.

I've seen myself being ill a couple of times and he will lie on the affected area as if to make it better and in general it helps like a live hot water bottle......I've read numerous reports of animals helping their owners...one guy had a foot infection that was so bad the doctors thought they would havfe to amputate. His Jack Russel started licking the infected area constantly and it seemed to stimulate blood into the infection and the guys foot was saved. Preservation of the owner seems more like an emotional responce than a programmed one.

When my dog got taken back from the vet after being away for a fortnight he seemed over the moon to see us all again.....not begging for food or water, just wanting attention.

Christ the list is endless and each example on its own doesn't seem particulary convincing, however its the accumulation of these things that convinces me that animals have emotional responce. Elephants mourn their dead. Dogs mourn the death of their owners.

[zaknafien]

[froggeh]