crossers/dirt/trials bikes

[hopoffbaby]

i'm looking for a 125 crosser. ive looked at the dt125 and kmx125.
any other ideas?
the bike has to be reliable and fun.

[Evilbob]

dt125's rock!!! not a crosser, it a Dirt/Trials bike and the newer version are worse for de-restricting
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[hopoffbaby]

what kind of speed and hp are derestricted dt's putting out?
why are the newer ones harder to derestrict?
are they good for wheelies and stuff

[Evilbob]

restricted they 12bhp and de-resticted they suppost to be like 24bhp i think.

But it realy difficult to de-restict the later one as the cdi has restictions fo rth eservo that opens the powervalve.

Then earlyer ones like myn didnt come with a servo so when u plug one in it works properly. or u can jam it open

not great for wheelying as de-restricted they some what narrow power band, but re-stricted by the exhaust and with the power valve pen they well easy to wheely but still no great power to continue through the gears.

Dt easy bike to cain about of road still scare the hell out u and not hurt u. myns probly 17bhp at a push and will spin the back wheel all the way around the dirt track staying in 3rd dumping the clutch
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[Ste]

NSR was dynoed at 23.7 today on that sorta topic

I assume the DT would be a bit less?

[TiN]

[Zimma]

Should be around 23-25bhp, but it will feel a lot more powerful as it is geared a lot lower. But then again, it will top out at 80-85....
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[Evilbob]

i can get frount wheel up doing a standing jump manover in 3rd on the powerband.

same engin as a tzr so would be about the smae power as a nsr i would have fault
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[hopoffbaby]

So i take it you like the dt. has anyone had any experence with the KMX or other bikes.

I really like the look of the:

https://www.motorradna.com/images/125sm.jpg

MZ125SM but cannt find any for sale.

[G]

Crossers are generally set up to have more low down power. Because power=torque x rpm. They are likely to have less power for a similar model crosser vs road bike.

[Evilbob]

hopoffbaby errrrrrrrrrrrrrrr its a 4 stroke!!!!!!

been on simular kmx and its about the same not sure about de-restriction they have Kips powervale system was told its easyer but dont know. if u have a licence how ever they do a 200cc and a 220 which are suppost to be nice

like dts er a bit
https://homepage.ntlworld.com/p.spray/mydt.jpg

m8s just built a rd350 ypvs engined dt very
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[hopoffbaby]

i'm looking for a 125 'cuz my bro is buying it off me when he turns 17 next year.
although when i sell my bike if i decide i like crossers/dirt bikes i might buy a bigger one or a supermoto

[Scooby]

Are you using it on road or off road? If it's for on road use then a DT125 or KMX is a good choice. If you're looking at off road use then don't get the DT or KMX get a proper off road bike, if it was me I would get the CR125 or YZ125.
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[hopoffbaby]

it will have to be for the road, i'll be using it for the daily commute

[cagiva gezzer]

the KDX is a crosser made for the road and can hack it off road and just cope on road. The kmx is opposite.

DT's are super reliable, if a little slow.

Husky wr(e) 125 for a really pukka 125, or the SM version.

Dont go for a four stroke.

Ive got a Cagiva supercity 125. its a supermoto 125. I love it.

The fact is that a crosser 125 is in a different leauge to a "road crosser."
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