A benifit or strain on society

[Dan 4RR]

Which is it?
https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/uk_politics/6221979.stm
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[Kickstart]

Hi

Quite possibly both. For example, might just offset the date when something serious needs to be done about pensions, but might have undercut many people from saving for some form of private pension.

All the best

Keith
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[Nath]

Over the summer I travelled through 26 European countries, and Bulgaria was by far the poorest nation I saw. The most telling thing was crossing the border into Serbia and suddenly seeing clapped out ancient tractors everywhere. There were very few tractors in Bulgaria, clapped out relics or not, because your average farmer there can only afford a horse and cart!

However I'm not particularly concerned about immigration from these two new EU nations. The effects of the last increase in EU size didn't seem to problematic to me, just created a more diverse populace.
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[killa]

The other story linked has some Romanian chap explaining how hard it is to work over here.

I doubt it is much of a strain compared to pulling a plough or selling guns over there. lol
He says that to become a lawyer, or self employed here is hard work.....he has no idea.
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[GodzGift]

its all messed up as it is, its all going tits I say, and whether those 2 countries enter or not will not make much difference.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[Itchy]

Both ,

Since they will work for less wage inflation goes down ,

this affects you,

but since they will work for less prices stay down or companies will get greedy and put prices UP AND cut costs ,

sort of like marsbars in 2003 , they decreased the size weight and chocolate content, and yet still increased the price 5p.

this also keeps our unemployed , er unemployed , since in a closed economy when there is a labour shortage the market responds by putting up prices why bin men used to be paid lots, and the unemployed where financially encouraged to work since the dole tipping limit was breached , now the same jobs are advertised @ min wage and migrants take them instead.

Best solution if you don't want so much migration (of both types ie in AND out) is to limit the dole ie , you get 2 months right to dole for every 1 year you work.

Which prevents school leavers getting their GCSEs and signing onthe same afternoon , and keeps the safety net working people fear.


note this is an exact rehash of the 1960s when we got Indians to come over to do our crap jobs,
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[GodzGift]

[killa]

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

Are you refering(sp) to this link Killa?

https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/europe/6222991.stm

If not could you please link to the one you are?

[colin1]

i think its good for society, as most of the immigrants will want to work hard, as a pound earned is worth a lot more to them than it is to us.

However for people affected by the extra competition for jobs, it will be bad eg plumbers and builders.

[Dan 4RR]

[killa]

[killa]

[Irezumi aka Reuben]

[killa]

I said he has no idea how hard it is, and yeah i joked a bit about the guns.

Sorry dad

Why not contribute to the thread?
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[killa]

[GodzGift]

romanians, bulgarians are dodgy,

end of,
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[Crash125]

The one thing the government hasnt thought about. They say the immigrant workers will do all the low paid jobs that we dont want to do. The reason we wont do these jobs as if we take these jobs we cant afford decent living conditions (ie food, clothing, housing etc) and there is a strong link between poor living conditions and poor health, so eventually this is going to put an even bigger strain on the NHS that the government already say is under too much strain!
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[froggeh]

I've been skiing in Bulgaria, and when I went, the group we were in did a whip round of about £50... which at the time was more than the instructor earned in a month...

[Itchy]

[GodzGift]

1 pound= 2.4 ozzy dollas, ,
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[dransy]

Its a load of bollocks they can all fuckoff i work my ass off just to get a quatre of my wage took of me by mr tax man so fucking lazy fucked up cunts can use MY money which ive EARNED by working . Its fucked up there needs to be a fucking revolution.

When british people over here lose a job/get sacked whatever its fucking impossible to find a job because these CUNTS take all the fucking work because fucking companys think its cool that they can pay them like 2 quid and hour and put the british man out of work
FUCK THEM ALL!!
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