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steveo
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PostPosted: 19:15 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: super moto V traillie Reply with quote

I have started looking recently for a change in bike and quite like the look of an off road style bike - especially as I have picked up a few too many points on my licence!

Dont get me wrong, i basically do 100 percent commuting on my bike, and the only mud it will hit is that which has been dropped on the road by a local farmer!

Basically I was wondering what the difference is with the above two catergories. It seems that bikes like Duke II and CCM R30 are put in a different class to bikes like the Yamaha XT660R but i cant quite see why, they both look like road bikes, long service intervals etc... (also the difference between the XT660X and XT660R - Yamaha's website onll list the R but autotrader also have an X model!)

ANyone help out with this, would be much apreciated, its all so confusing to me!
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garth
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PostPosted: 23:07 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Depends if you're talking commpetition 'moto, or road 'moto.

Xt660xyz whatever is a road bike. Something like a Husaberg or similar is a 'crosser, with road wheels and stupid service intervals, something you don't want for commuting.

Sounds like you want a bike that is slow to save your license. A road going Xt can still break the speed limit, and an Sv isn't exactly the fastest bike in the world. Sounds like you need to teach yourself to be more restrained!
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PostPosted: 23:10 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh, and X has a 18" rear wheel and a 21" front, for dirt tyres.
R has 17" wheels for better choice of rubber for the road.

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PostPosted: 00:18 - 08 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: super moto V traillie Reply with quote

steveo wrote:
It seems that bikes like Duke II and CCM R30 are put in a different class to bikes like the Yamaha XT660R but i cant quite see why, they both look like road bikes, long service intervals etc... (also the difference between the XT660X and XT660R - Yamaha's website onll list the R but autotrader also have an X model!)

Yamaha lists the 'X' model XT; it's a supermoto version of the 'R'.


The other two bikes, I suspect as being sold by a non-mainstream brand, are seen as as a bit more 'extreme'. However the figures suggest that's not so much the case - though I think the XT is particularly lardy, even compared to the Duke which isn't exactly a light weight.

Claimed power and weight
XT:
177kg
35.5kw (dry)

KTM Duke:
40kw
152kg (dry)

A competition based bike will be something like:
Just over 100kg
40kw
Add about 10kg on for a competition enduro bike - similar power, but probably with a few more cee cees.

As you can see, a 'proper' competition based supermoto should be a lot quicker. However, probably; few people are going to be able to use this extra to full effect and even fewer will do so on the road.

For commuting, something reliable is probably the most important thing - being able to wheelie in third gear off the power is nice, but not always useful Smile.
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