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PostPosted: 00:42 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: PS3 = £549.99!! Reply with quote

I'll be buying one of these then Rolling Eyes

https://www.play.com/Games/PlayStation3/4-/1032615/Sony_Playstation_3_PS3_Console_With_60GB_HDD_3_Games/Product.html

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PostPosted: 00:46 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bloody hell my mate is selling one for £450 with no games posted !!!!!!!!!!11
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PostPosted: 00:48 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is with 3 games mind. But still, even if it has blue ray but it is still a bit pricey.

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PostPosted: 04:51 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My mate got one as an X-MAS present somehow, f**king unbelievable!

He's got a wakeboarding game for it which we spent many hours playing whilst he was out, the graphics are just Drooling
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PostPosted: 09:39 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

not worth that sort of money end of the day its a games console and once released a few months later it will be less in price


was stupid the way people was paying over £300 for the wii when it was £180 in the shops, just meant you had to wait for stock to come in
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

No deal Noel. Confused

I'll just wait for them to come in stock. Razz

I want one - i want one badly.............. Shocked
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PostPosted: 10:20 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

HOW MUCH! Shocked Shocked You can get a PC for that money or a bike even! I would never fork out that sort of dosh for it. Playstation can fork off! Middle Finger
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PostPosted: 11:51 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's exactly the same as the 360, they compared graphics on Fight Night & Tiger Woods & the diffrence is unnoticeable (360 looks a bit sharper). I'm guessing they will also have many of the same games too.
https://uk.gamespot.com/features/6162742/index.html?sid=6162742
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PostPosted: 12:24 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Are'nt the games like 50 quid each as well?
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PostPosted: 12:52 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bishbash wrote:
Are'nt the games like 50 quid each as well?

as they are for the 360 when they're new.

the pricing of the ps3 is what's making it lose the console war. that and it has nothing on offer over the 360. sucks fur sony to be sure.
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PostPosted: 12:54 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I might buy one..
..when they're selling them in cash converters for twenty quid.
I'd much rather have 500 quid than a ps3. I reckon it'll go the same way as the 3DO
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PostPosted: 13:09 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Nothing to offer?!, im sorry but have you even SEEN the Metal Gear Solid 4 trailers???!!!!! They dick all over Gears of war graphically and the metal gear series has always been top of the line.

https://uk.gamespot.com/ps3/adventure/metalgearsolid4/media.html?om_act=convert&om_clk=tabs

I think you will find that the graphic wars will only really come into affect in a years time - initial Xbox titles werent awe inspiring graphically either - look how the PS2 or even Xbox1 graphics progressed. Xbox is already a year in and ps3 is the same - ps3 has alot to offer yet.

Xbox has finally started getting some new intellectual property though, rather than just relying on EA reiterations etc. Will make competition stiffer for Sony, who have always had alot of unique IP.

List of Ps3 exclusives currently on track for 2007:

Metal Gear Solid 4: Guns of the Patriots
Singstar
White Knight Story
Devil May Cry 4
Final Fantasy XIII / Versus XIII
Heavenly Sword
Lair
MotorStorm
Resistance: Fall of Man

Xbox exclusive 2007:
Halo 3
Mass Effect
Blue Dragon
Bullet Witch
Crackdown
Lost Planet
Too Human

PS3 will do well. The existing fan base from PSX and PS2 is HUGE. I for one will never buy an xbox. I personally dislike the controller and i like the ps3 franchises better. Metal gear definitely is an attraction for me!

Alot of the negative media is also being launched by Microsoft, and why shouldnt they? But i dont think Sony have as much to fear as the media makes out.
Developers say that the Core CPU is more difficult to develop for, but they said that the ps2 was clumsy, but they worked around it. The Core Cpu is ALOT more powerful than the Xboc cpu and developers will create tools after the first generation of games to develop easily for it.

Sony are not out of this game. December 2007 will be the true D-day of the console war.

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PostPosted: 14:45 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graphics graphic graphics, thats all anyone goes on about. Gameplay is the number 1 concern. Some of the best games ever had simple no nonsense graphics.

I'm still on an origional xbox an find it plenty good enough. If a game is any good i'm so wrapped up in it that trivial things like whether i can see individual blades of grass as i lap Laguna Seca or how realistic my gun looks as i'm blasting the head of the dumpy little snail things in Halo 2 doesn't even register.

The PS3 costs 6x what my xbox cost but i bet it isn't 6 times better or does 6 time as much. Afaics in real terms not spec sheet gibberish, it has better graphics and that blueray thingi drive. Not worth an extra £450 imo. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with Bishbash, not cheap Shocked
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PostPosted: 14:54 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This is Sony's downfall. Extortionate prices for something that is still available.

I was once a Sony fan. BUT I will not buying a PS3, no way. Yeah it will probably sell out on release, but I bet it will be beaten by the Xbox 360 even the possibility of being beaten by the Nintendo Wii.
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PostPosted: 15:02 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think New intellectual properties go hand in hand with gameplay and innovation. Playstation has always embraced a culture of doing new things, which thankfully Xbox is catching up on. So along side the graphics, there will be gameplay as well.

I think the Wii, although revolutionary in its approch has one major flaw.
The innovation is in the controller only.
The base unit is essentially a GameCube with extra Ram - not particularly future proof.Whilst you can bang on about gameplay over graphics, the same game play will appear on other consoles in shinier guises.

There is nothing to stop developers creating the same/similar games for other platforms. Microsoft are already developing the tilt/motion sensing into the next controller and Sony has the SixAxis in the PS3 controller. Those games will be recreated for these platforms. Some games (such as sing star/guitar hero) already ship with new controllers, so there is nothing to stop games shipping with peripherals for motion sensing if 1st party peripherals didnt appear.
I personally dont like Mario Games, so i will feel no loss of not being able to play that, but the fishing/tennis/boxing etc will be converted to PS3 and Xbox 360.

PS3 is also going to get the EyeToy2, which has a HD camera and depth sensing using Infra Red (same as Wii mote, but based on unit rather than your hand). So you could go the next step from wii sports and actually box yourself for example, with weaving your body actually making a difference (rather than tilting controllers side to side).
With the ability to sense depth you will be able to box facing your opponent (screen) rather than boxing side scroll style as you did on the original eye toy.

Dont get me wrong, every format has its benefits, but i believe PS3 has more innovation in it than its being credited for.

This batch of consoles is certianly the closest industry battle yet.

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PostPosted: 15:23 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

SpannerMonkey wrote:
I'm still on an origional xbox an find it plenty good enough

crikey. I was going to get one of those, but I've only got a three-bedroom house, so I'd probably need to knock a few walls down to accommodate it Smile

As for graphics, nobody can honestly say they bought PS2's for the graphics (or the build quality for that matter). Even the dreamcast could run circles round it graphically.

I don't reckon people plan to buy a PS3 for anything other than to play video games with, but sony are banking on people using the PS3 as a media centre. Several companies (notably VM Labs and the 3DO Company) have tried similar strategies and they've all gone down in flames:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3DO_Interactive_Multiplayer
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nuon

Having said that, Jeff Minter's latest effort is a light synth for the x-box 360. Given that his past efforts included the Atari Falcon, the Konix Multisystem, the Atari Jaguar and the Nuon; I wouldn't start declaring any winners just yet..
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PostPosted: 15:47 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Cost is probably why theres ps3's in stock all over america Laughing

Tbh i didnt expect the wii to sell as madly as it did, and i certainly didn't expect the ds to be no1 selling console over the past few months Shocked

I think i must have, as i become older changed into a casual gamer, these days i'm not concerned how many pixels my little box(or half nes half brevel toaster in the ps3's case) puts out - xbox 360 2nd gen games look almost identical s the 1st generation ps3 to me.
I went to a games museum a lil while back - the cue for the wii was humungus and the ps3 generally sat there unmanned with people looking whilst in the cue for tennis.
Gameplay is defined by the person playing it so you can't really say gameplay is shite till everyones had a go and said so, if good gameplay is sitting up till half 4 in the morning and keep going even though you should really be getting some sleep - the wii is ace, as for the ps3 i can't really pass judgement as i haven't played it - i can only build an opinion on what i know, its too expensive, its too fat, i dont want to be playing devil may cry 42/X or ridge racer 99, most playstation games i see are followed by a number of where it appearsafter the origional.

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PostPosted: 16:03 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

id rather have a ps2, its cheap, great games, and why would i spend 500 quid on a games console Confused i grew out of seriously playing games (ie sitting for hours alone) a long time ago and im not even 18 yet, i hope ps3 fails, will serve sony right for being money grabbing greedy twats
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PostPosted: 16:17 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How are they being "money grabbing greedy twats"?

They lose money on each console as it costs more to make it than the RRP.

Its that price because of the technology inside it. Froogle the cost of a Blu-Ray player, im sure you will we blown away by how much they cost. A blu ray drive is included in the PS3 and its costs half as much.
https://froogle.google.co.uk/froogle?q=Blu+Ray+player&hl=en

But having blu ray will benefit for the ps3 - rather than just being used to make the ps3 a multimedia centre, it will allow larger information to be held on disk. DVD format current max storage is about 9gb. Blu ray has already hit above 80gb. Much larger textures etc etc can be stored on the blu ray meaning that better looking and larger environments can be played, without changing disks.

"but Xbox has the HD-DVD addon"
Thats true, but it wont be able to play games from it. Quite a flaw.

The PS3 also has a much larger internal Hard-drive which can be upgraded or swapped with standard Laptop style HDD's. This allows for a large amount of storage and upgradeability - but you can upgrade with a cheap HHD you find on the net rather than an "official" HDD addon.

I agree the PS3 is expensive, but there is alot in the package.
There is also a cut down version, similar to the 360 Core that will be cheaper.

Sony's online service will also be free, unlike Live! which you have to pay for.

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PostPosted: 16:20 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

calm down dear its only another console war thread Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 16:20 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kaben wrote:

But having blu ray will benefir the ps3


Nope it will hinder it, umd anyone?
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PostPosted: 16:22 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a xbox 360 V2. announced remember.

I don't really understand all the brand loyalty. "ps3 is gonna fail blah blah". You don't WANT it to fail. Otherwise MS will corner another bloody market (the nintendo isn't even in contention, its not really a games machine per se - Just a poofy device for kids. Different market.). You want some healthy competition!

Crikey...I would have thought everyone would have been against MS since it's "the thing to do"... Rolling Eyes

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Blue ray certainly won't hinder it. Just not do much for it really...HDTV is fine for me thanks and thats what a lot of people already think too. Right enough, they should have jsut made stand alone Blue ray players. sticking it in a games machine was just a bit silly. Be better if they done a 'core' and premium like MS did.
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PostPosted: 16:28 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

UMD's flaw is its capacity. They are not for HD or next gen and the movie compatibility was bit of an afterthought. You buy the film on UMD for teh same price as a DVD and you dont get the extras.

The PSP's own ability to play downloaded movies (once converted to Mpeg4 format) killed the UMD's market - plus there was no real support from movie houses for UMD, whereas Blu-Ray/HD-DVD have a pretty much 50-50 split.

I believe that Blu-ray is a superior format to HD-DVD personally, with hugely greater capacity.DVD boxsets can be stored on a sing Blu-ray etc ,brilliant for series like 24.

HD-dvd's primary benefit is in its name. General punters will know what it is whereas Blu-ray is a bit more cryptic.
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PostPosted: 16:30 - 11 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

instigator wrote:
Be better if they done a 'core' and premium like MS did.


They did.

20gb version and 40gb version.
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