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PostPosted: 15:51 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Singapore <=200cc Motorcycle Licence Equivalent to? Reply with quote

Hello,

I am originally from Singapore and have been living in England for a few years now (although I did take a sojourn of several months and have only just returned to England a few weeks ago) . My Singapore Motorcycle Riding license allows me to ride bikes of a capacity up to and including 200cc.

I understand that I can ride in England using my Singapore Licence but what bikes can I ride? 200cc or 33bhp?

Also, if I were to exchange my Singapore licence for a GB bike licence, what would I get?
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PostPosted: 16:01 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd suggest you contact DVLA, as there is no such thing as a 200cc licence in the UK so you'd get something different.

Also, what you can do and how to exchange your licence depends on why you're here, as a resident, visitor or a student.

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PostPosted: 16:26 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Paivi wrote:
I'd suggest you contact DVLA, as there is no such thing as a 200cc licence in the UK so you'd get something different.

Also, what you can do and how to exchange your licence depends on why you're here, as a resident, visitor or a student.

DVLA site


Yes I know. However, TBH, I cannot stand the DVLA website. I think it is unnecessarily convoluted and largely unhelpful. Eg: They say you can do blah blah blah if you are "normally resident" in the UK. But the fools omitted to define what "normally resident" is.

Sorry, but the civil service makes me very angry sometimes.

I will get on the phone though and hope whoever is on the line can help me. Crying or Very sad - sigh-
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PostPosted: 19:32 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Off topic, can you do the Fandango? Smile
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PostPosted: 19:41 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

TheShaggyDA wrote:
Off topic, can you do the Fandango? Smile


What an odd question Question

Wikipedia informs me that the Fandango is a type of folk dance.

Errr...the only dance I can do is pee pee dance. And I haven't done that in years!

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PostPosted: 21:51 - 06 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What the hell is pee pee dance?? When there is a queue for the toilets?
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PostPosted: 00:03 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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What the hell is pee pee dance?? When there is a queue for the toilets?

According to the Urbandictionary.com that's exactly what it is. So, well done, Jono, our man on the streets. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:08 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

haha, I must be wiser than I thought Embarassed
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PostPosted: 00:16 - 07 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Streetwiser, you mean. Very Happy
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PostPosted: 00:40 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

if i were you i would take a test over here. dont know singapore but i know that riding styles differentiates (wow big word!) from country to country, for instance italy or india.

if you dont want to do that then the probability is you will have a restricted licence and have to stick to 33bhp.

If i were you, i would just take the A2 test over here and ride whatever you want.


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PostPosted: 11:20 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I really think that you need to contact the DVLA first, they will be albe to help you. It seems a little extreme to go through the waiting and pressure of a retest (sorry Dale Wink ).

My wife is from Hong Kong, now living in the UK. She was a student over here in the late 1990s, so residing on a student visa. She was able to have both her car and motorcycle licences transferred to the UK format. She now rides a Yamaha XV250 (vertically challenged Laughing )

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Off topic, can you do the Fandango? Smile


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PostPosted: 12:56 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

yeah well it was just a thought.

I just thought it could take ages to get the licence converted, and that a bit of road awareness over here in the uk would have been an advantage to him.

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PostPosted: 13:30 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
a bit of road awareness over here in the uk would have been an advantage to him.


I do agree with this part... my wife did also do a bit of a refresher course on both the bike and the car before actually doing any solo roadwork.
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PostPosted: 17:08 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
if i were you i would take a test over here. dont know singapore but i know that riding styles differentiates (wow big word!) from country to country, for instance italy or india.


all I remember about bikers in signapore and malaysia was that they popped their jackets on backwards, opened up the throttle and expected everyone else to move out of the way Wink

I'd be interested to see how a foreign license transfer works in this case. I've a nasty feeling they might just ransfer it to an A1 license or at best a restricted A license
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 12 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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I'd be interested to see how a foreign license transfer works in this case. I've a nasty feeling they might just ransfer it to an A1 license or at best a restricted A license


i agree.

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PostPosted: 00:17 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I rode on my Zimbabwean licence in the UK for over 20 years. Two years ago I got in a bit of minor grief and had to produce my ticket to the police. They informed me that it was only valid for 2 years after entering the UK and I needed to get a British licence (I have now done so). EU licences are fine here but take care on dodgy third world (including American) permits.
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PostPosted: 02:01 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Right - I've sent in my Licence and application for exchange today. When I asked the lady processing the application at the DVLA what licence I am likely to get she hesitated then said something along the lines of "you'll get to ride up to 125ccs" Shocked

But then, I believe she doesn't know what she is talking about as she didn't seem to know anthing about the various types of UK motorcycle licence.

Still, would be very very very very disappointed if the DVLA gave me the A1 Licence.

Some info about the A2 licence according to https://www.elitemotorcycletraining.com/licence_options.htm
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A2 - Restricted UK bike licence

Full UK bike licence with a two year power restriction on what you can ride.
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* Minimum test vehicle: Any motorcycle over 120cc and less than 125cc and capable of at least 62.5 mph (100 km/h)There must be certification to back this up. If you book to use one of our 125cc bikes, they all meet the minimum vehicle requirements to gain this A2 licence...



By that criteria, I ought to get at least an A2 licence as I trained and took my test on a 125/150cc honda.

Will keep you guys updated! Licence is expected in 3 weeks.
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PostPosted: 02:05 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
if i were you i would take a test over here. dont know singapore but i know that riding styles differentiates (wow big word!) from country to country, for instance italy or india.

if you dont want to do that then the probability is you will have a restricted licence and have to stick to 33bhp.

If i were you, i would just take the A2 test over here and ride whatever you want.


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Errr - no thanks!

I rode in the military for about 1.5 years, rode in England on a CBT for about a year, returned to Singapore, and passed the motorcycle course in Singapore.

I think I've had enough of being taught how to ride!
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PostPosted: 02:09 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

techierob wrote:
Dale_Mckeown wrote:
if i were you i would take a test over here. dont know singapore but i know that riding styles differentiates (wow big word!) from country to country, for instance italy or india.


all I remember about bikers in signapore and malaysia was that they popped their jackets on backwards, opened up the throttle and expected everyone else to move out of the way Wink

I'd be interested to see how a foreign license transfer works in this case. I've a nasty feeling they might just ransfer it to an A1 license or at best a restricted A license


Yes, the riders in that part of the world are rather reckless!!! However, I can tell you that this is more cultural than anything else because the Singapore motorcycle test is at least as difficult, if not more difficult, than the UK one!

Can't comment on the quality of the Malaysian Riding test but by all accounts, a blind chimp with a learning disability could get a licence...
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PostPosted: 02:13 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ok then. convert your licence and get the 33bhp restriction.....as a BEST result. Its up to you mate.

And anyway no-one needs to tell you how to ride. All you had to do was book the test, then spend less than half a day out of your bed doing it, if you dont wanna ride 125's take the test. i mean, you seem confident enough to just be able to take the test and pass it, so whats the problem?


and there is no need to be abrupt towards me im only tryin to give u advice.

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PostPosted: 02:15 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dale_Mckeown wrote:
ok then. convert your licence and get the 33bhp restriction.....as a BEST result. Its up to you mate.

And anyway no-one needs to tell you how to ride. All you had to do was book the test, then spend less than half a day out of your bed doing it, if you dont wanna ride 125's take the test. i mean, you seem confident enough to just be able to take the test and pass it, so whats the problem?


and there is no need to be abrupt towards me im only tryin to give u advice.

Dalemac


eh? I didn't realize I was being abrupt. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 02:23 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Errr - no thanks!

I rode in the military for about 1.5 years, rode in England on a CBT for about a year, returned to Singapore, and passed the motorcycle course in Singapore.

I think I've had enough of being taught how to ride!


sorry but i take offence to that.....someone is tryin to help and you come around with "ER....No thanks" when there is alot more nicer things to say, such as "in my opinion i dont think thats a good idea" or similar.

I dont know, maybe im just being stupid, or tired.


anyway its now clear you didnt mean it that way, so im sorry.

Im gonna shut up and go to sleep.

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PostPosted: 07:18 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sounds like you are seeing somehting he didn't intend in his earlier post there.

It's just the internet. < shrugs >
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PostPosted: 13:16 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you know how to ride, then surely passing the A2 motorcycle test would be like a piece of cake then? Even still, even with your riding experience, you need to get accustomed to the UK traffic laws, and i know you've done your CBT, it will mean you will get a more in-depth understanding through the training you will receive in preparation for your test.

Generally as a fact, about 75% of most south east asians can't ride for shit, try seeing what goes around in Jakarta at worst, or Bangkok or even Kuala Lumpur at times. Anyway, you still have a year (i think it's a year nowadays) for the uk to honour your singaporean license, so ride a 125 and you'll be safe for the time being.

But seriously, get your test done, makes you feel you have a sense of accomplishment.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 13 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'd sit the A2 test and get a UK licence, myself. My wife drove in the UK on an American licence for 9 years. Finally, the insurance company said that they wouldn't insure her again as she didn't have a UK licence, so she had to sit the test. She passed, and her insurance premiums droppped drastically.

Although it wasn't pretty. Imagine driving happily for over 30 years, then having to have L plates and be accompanied at all times by a qualified driver again... Smile

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Being taught and taking a test aren't the same thing Smile
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