Where does ultimate responsibility lie?

[NickD]

I didn't want to clutter up the spill counter with this, so I've pulled it out here. Palmer posted something, and it just doesn't work for me (nothing personal at all Palmer, it just got me thinking, 's all).

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Probably 99% of all accidents could be avoided with better observation. You might not be at fault but you probably could have avoided it if your observations were 100%. The reality being it's very hard to do all the time.

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[Whosthedaddy]

You are responsible and accountable for your actions or omissions and there lies the problem, most people will always try and point the finger of blame somewhere else no matter how absurb.

If you are not responsible for your actions, then who is?

If people were just to think and use some common sense then I'm positive that the number of accidents would decrease.
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[bazza]

Ooh. Don't go there, you goddam Safety Nazis.

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[JonB]

I notice these threads appearing often recently.

Probably cause everybody needs to blame someone else.

An example I found was "chalky143" and his accident involving the unused traffic island in the middle of the road.

Naturally when I saw the thread title I did actually think "it was gonna happen sooner or later." What with the threads asking if you can wheelie a restricted Bandit and if it is faster than a ZXR400 or a bike of that nature. With that sort of attitude you can expect as a spectator that the person will become a cropper.

Likewise with people have many crashes, 5% they genuinely are unlucky, 95% chance they generally need to look at their own riding and try and improve, however with this constant blaming of other people they are overlooking their own ability.
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[McJamweasel]

I completely agree.

Thinking back to some of my 'incidents' I know that most of them would of been 'accidents' had I not been paying attention and anticipating what could happen.

I'm sure one of the most common is someone pulling out from the left into the path of a filtering bike. That should never, ever cause a crash. If you are looking around and paying attention then you will see the turning, you will see the gap in the traffic for the car to pull into and you will slow down and get ready to stop. I've lost count of the number of times that I've had to stop in this exact situation. Accident prevented.
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[palmer]

i was hit by a car pulling out on me. there was little i could of done to avoid an accident of somekind. if i slowed i would of hit him, if i swearved i would of either hit him,a tree, a dike.

from my point of view, and from what ive seen/been told. more than half the time its the person who is pulling out who is at fault, be they car,truck or even another bike.

although i kind of agree, every now and then i see a thread and think .

btw its nice to know i provoke people to think about things, and not just get angry at how much of a c*nt i am

[Aikman666]

If i hadnt suspected that dozy bint was going to pull out i would have went into her car and not just ditched the bike. Never avoided the accident completely, but it avoided a hospital stay. Nomatter how good you are, you cant see into the future.
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