Compulsory education leaving age raised to 18.

[chrisbgy86]

""Young people will be required to stay in school, training or workplace training until the age of 18.
The Department for Education and Skills has confirmed plans to raise the school leaving age in England by 2013.

This will not mean that pupils have to stay in the classroom or continue with academic lessons - but they will have to continue to receive training.

It would mean raising the leaving age for the first time since 1972, when it was raised to the present 16 years old.

The proposals would seek to tackle the problem of young people leaving education without qualifications or workplace skills.

Despite repeated efforts to tackle this stubborn problem - the most recent figures for England showed that 11% of 16 to 18 year olds are still outside education, training or work."

Thoughts anyone?


https://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/education/6254833.stm[url][/url]

[JonB]

My thoughts are it is a terrible decision.

I loved sixth form because all the people who weren't interested in learning left school at 16 meaning studying my A levels was a lot better without the distraction of immature individuals.
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[TheShaggyDA]

I think it will cause a lot of parking hassle.
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[Mister James]

Just think of the increase in legal young teen girls in school uniforms!

Seriously though, Jon B is right, forcing people to stay on is not the answer, especially when todays qualifications are so devalued in the job market.
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[instigator]

My mother is horrified by the thought. The 5th and 6th year classes are a lot easier to deal with as they generally are slightly more mature and the kids WANT to learn. Thank f*ck I'm retiring, she said.

Sounds like another reason why people wouldn't want to become a teacher.

[Itchy]

what it really meant to say was ,

I have found another way to hide unemployment stats
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[Mister James]

[thx1138]

I think that it's a bad move. It might work to lower the leaving age to 13, in exceptional circumstances, assuming that the kids involved are in some supervised employm ent training scheme.

For me, High School was a waste of time. I learned to read, write, and do arithmetic well enough by the time I joined, and learned little else worthwhile whilst I was there.

I worked about 45 hours a week, whilst I was at school, and had a nice lump sum when I left.

[TheShaggyDA]

Schools will also have to start providing creche facilities.
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[Irezumi aka Reuben]

Where's the big problem with this idea, makes sense to implement it.

Training could mean as little as day release, or even in house training, to further someone's job prospect's for the future when most do not usually try to further them themselves.

Setting up people better for later in life and getting more young people off the street's and, potentially creating a more intelligent population.

Seem's it is merely proposing a better transition phase between school and the work place as well.

If anyone can point out any major downfall's to this idea I'd be grateful to hear them.

[feef]

noone's saying Stay on in "school"

they are saying you can't just drop out of school at 16, and bum off the social any more.. you need to g et a job, training or something else.

so all you people who liked the fact the 'bums' left will be in the same situation.. he bums will still leave, but they will go into training/work/apprenticeships rather than bumming around the streets.

People complain about migrant workers stealing our jobs, and yet we have lazy arsed teenagers who can't be bothered to do anything, who Could do those jobs.

It's a good thing, imho, but only as it suggests, if it involves training or work, and isn't compulsory 'school'

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[colin1]

I think its ridiculous. As it is, kids waste a lot of time learning useless stuff in school just to keep them occupied.

They wont increase the funding for colleges or whatever, so the kids who actually want to stay on and learn, will have to share resources with all the ones who are just there because they have to be.

So standards will plummet.

Education with a purpose can be amazingly useful. Education for the sake of education is a lot more expensive and a lot less fun than giving someone a bottle of cider and some computer games.

The problem is that politicians notice the results from education that is useful, and decided that they should try to get everyone to be like that, but it doesnt work that way.

There is not going to suddenly be much workplace training, or if there is it will just be a scam to get around the new legislation.
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[craigie b]

My tuppence, quickly.....

Education in the workplace (i.e. degrees) are completely undervalued due to the amount of people with degrees (this is across the boards from drunkard degrees to firsts). Forcing people into education is the answer to the question no one asked.

My friend is a sparky. He drives an M3, whilst I as a highly qualified designer drive a cavalier. Its ridiculous to suggest academic education is for everyone and that it is the key to riches.

I beleive a lot of millionaires dropped out of school.

This is labour implementing the nanny state again. Mother F*ckers.

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[Itchy]

Its not the education its the will inside, trying to change them by ecucating them further will do nothing

bums will be bums no matter how much state cash (ie taxes) you chuck at them,

the only way to get them off the social is to make the dole a contributions type system , ie if you've paid in you can take X weeks for Z months of work , if you have never paid in ....
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[feef]

even the trades aren't safe tho.

Robot Bricklayers anyone?

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