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Adam_P
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PostPosted: 18:16 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: So, who's SORN'd before? Reply with quote

I've got the letter through from the DVLA that the bike needs taxing at the end of the month, which for the last two years I've done straight away as it's meant that I can just get straight on it when the weather gets better (yeah, and don't all start bitching and moaning that I'm a fair weather biker, it's what my car and its heater are for! Laughing )

But, this is the first year it'll need an MOT too and I still have to have the Yamaha recall for the throttle position sensor to be done too.

As the weather is still, frankly, shit, I was wondering whether to SORN it for a couple of months before getting everything done together.

I've never SORN'd anything before so was just wondering how simple it was to chop and change it when I'm ready, from first hand experience, so to speak. (Kickstart, I'm thinking of you and your 'fleet' here! Wink Laughing )

Is anyone able to shed more light on the subject for me please?

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PostPosted: 18:20 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

SORN is simple, do it online in 2 minutes. When the time comes you just walk into a post office with the normal documents and tax it. Piss-easy.
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PostPosted: 18:21 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

^^^What he said^^^

Did mine in about 2 mins on the DirectGov website.
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PostPosted: 18:24 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I bought a bike last year and my tax is up for renewal. What docs do I need to take to the post office to get a new tax disc? And how much will it be?

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PostPosted: 18:29 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.direct.gov.uk

I swear internet forums are contributing to the general lazyness of the population.
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PostPosted: 19:31 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I just did mine yesterday. Bike at dealers and cant see early resolution of the same. Evil or Very Mad
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The ads on the tv about "if you're out of tax we'll automatticly send you a fine" etc etc are bollocks, I've had bikes sat with no tax/SORN for months without hearing a thing!
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PostPosted: 20:11 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I forgot to SORN a new bike I bought, they fined me £25 (this was before the £80 thing) for owning a bike and it not being taxed or SORNd, despite it just sitting in my garden while I was waiting to turn 17.
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PostPosted: 22:49 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi

Just declare it SORN, although if it is only going to be a month or so I would just tax it.

SORN system is a total bureaucratic waste of time.

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PostPosted: 23:30 - 16 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Adam you might as well just tax it. The couple of cold months you miss this year you just get next.
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PostPosted: 02:45 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had a sod of a time sorting out SORN's for all the rusting metal in the backyard.

DVLA ended up picking my pocket for a small fortune because they hadn't received the documents...

Everything was sorted in the end and they sent through the SORN notice for the two bikes and bug remaing on SORN earlier this month.

DVLA are damned quick to take money off of you if they don't have documents declaring SORN in their grubby little mitts. Sickeningly one of the vehicles in question has heritage tax status.

If the bike will go through an MOT put it through and tax it, taxing a bike isn't expensive so you'll 'lose' next to nothing and at least then you don't have to fiddle about with anything when you are ready to go back on the road.

If it won't pass an MOT then SORN it, but if you do it on line take a screen shot when you complete the form just to make sure their servers don't 'misplace' your SORN.

If you can do it over the counter make sure you get a receipt. If you postit send it special delivery and hassle them by phone when you knowits arrived to make sure they update your vehicle as SORN.

There is a page on the DVLA site that allows you to see the current tax status of a vehicle. Here.

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PostPosted: 04:17 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

So whats the deal when your bike has no tax and no M.O.T.? Are you allowed to ride it to the place of M.O.T. (no tax remember!) or must you chuck it in the back of a van?
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PostPosted: 04:42 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have VERA 1994 Part 2, section 22 at home somewhere.

It boils down to you can ride/drive an untaxed/untested vehicle to and from a testing station that you have prebooked an MoT at.

Further, if the vehicle fails an MoT you can take it to a certified mechanic for repairs if prebooked.

In my younger more irresponcible days we used this clause to shuttle vehicles without MoT's round the Country. (There is no provision in VERA for the Mechnic/testing Station in question being the closest one to the Vehicle)

However as any Police Officer I may run into may not know the ins and outs of VERA I print off a copy and have it on me in case I am stopped.

You do have to have the vehicle insured though. Unless you've got 1/4 million sitting in the bank doing nothing... Very Happy
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PostPosted: 08:44 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Sorry for bein an out of towner but what the fuck is a SORN ??

Im guessin its declairing that you wont be riding the bike while its unregistered.

Does it cost money to "SORN" a vehicle?

If so what a farkin rip off.
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PostPosted: 09:43 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ok Sorry for bein an out of towner but what the fuck is a SORN ??
SORN -> Statutory Off Road Notification

Im guessin its declairing that you wont be riding the bike while its unregistered.
Yes and when SORN has been declared for a vehicle the registered keeper must ensure that it will not be used or kept on a public road until a new licence has been taken out Twisted Evil

Does it cost money to "SORN" a vehicle?
NO

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PostPosted: 10:20 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

DEN MONKEY wrote:
If so what a farkin rip off.


Yep, because there is no point to it at all (except reducing unemployment around the DVLA offices).

Lets see, you can either have to declare you are not taxing it or the DVLA can take the massive hint of no application for a tax disk.

And then they have the idea of fining you for not filling in their pointless forms, yet they don't even bother sending a reminder after a couple of years.

All the best

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PostPosted: 10:35 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Kal wrote:
It boils down to you can ride/drive an untaxed/untested vehicle to and from a testing station that you have prebooked an MoT at.

Further, if the vehicle fails an MoT you can take it to a certified mechanic for repairs if prebooked.


Thanks for the information! Because I was unsure about it! Thumbs Up Cool
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PostPosted: 11:11 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah Kickstart does seem a bit of a waste of time.

Seems this would only hit the people who are legit about the bikes.

What a bunch of wankers.
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PostPosted: 11:41 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

There is a point to it since they changed the way they track peole who don't pay road tax! Like now you get automatic penality if you haven't applied for road tax and not declared SORN. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 11:55 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i ticked the box for the SORN, went to the post office and 30 seconds later my 'Blade was declared off-road! simple as
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PostPosted: 14:40 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

scoota bk wrote:
The ads on the tv about "if you're out of tax we'll automatticly send you a fine" etc etc are bollocks, I've had bikes sat with no tax/SORN for months without hearing a thing!


not surprised bk, where you are! Laughing

& yea i brought a bike SORN & just re taxed as norm

& a 250 iv got needed renewing & i just done the 2min...NO 1MIN online to do it & VALLA week or 2 later the letter comes thro Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 16:48 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Like others have said takes 2 seconds online. Only need to input about 4 bits of info!

If you keep it SORN you will have to re-new the SORN, like tax, after 12 months or you will be hit with a £40 fine (raising to £80 after a couple of weeks)


Getting bike back on road, just take V5, Insurance and MOT to Post Office or local DVLA office and re-new tax. Or do that online too!

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PostPosted: 17:30 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

paulodd wrote:
Like others have said takes 2 seconds online. Only need to input about 4 bits of info!


On the last two sorn notices I've had they've neglected to bother putting on a document reference number. Which is really fucking handy since I can't find my V5C. So I got fined the £40. Incompetent bastards. Mind you, I am lazy.
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PostPosted: 21:46 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dew wrote:
There is a point to it since they changed the way they track peole who don't pay road tax! Like now you get automatic penality if you haven't applied for road tax and not declared SORN. Thumbs Up


Err, no. No point at all. Basically make it easy for them to fine people who have done nothing wrong rather than them having to go to the minor effort fining the people who are driving / riding without tax.

Pointless bureaucracy.

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PostPosted: 21:50 - 17 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

LH-ER5 wrote:
Did mine in about 2 mins on the DirectGov website.


Online all the way, no more standing behind the blue rinse brigade trying to get their pension out Mad

I've SORN'd a couple of the bikes and a car too, piece of piss to do and you get a letter from the DVLA saying thank you and ignore any tax reminders Wink Thumbs Up
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