Sudams hanging

THE MESSIAH · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Karma :

I saw the video the other day and I was surprised at the way it made
me feel Shocked

I have seen some TV programmes about him and he is
an out & out barbarian. I think he deserves to be take off this planet etc but
when I watched how it was done I was quite sickened Confused

now before
I watched I would have said he deserves everything he gets etc but
the manner in which it was done made me think we were meant to
be better than him so why was it not done more clinical and more
professional, and to see a real hanging made me think there must a better
way, so I am now fighting the he deserves it and the how can we be better
than him if we do it back Confused

Never thought I would have felt like this
about the barbarian, a hint of sypathy Confused

very small hint but a hint Confused

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Noggin · Traffic Copper Joined: 27 Feb 2004 Karma :

I think part of the issue is that it was conducted unto iraqi law, and hanging is their way of dealing out capital punishment. Its not nice, and I don't have a say in what was the right way to handle the situation but I certainly wouldn't want to be hanged.

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McGee · O RLY? Joined: 24 Jun 2005 Karma :

I think they should of tied him up and given cocktail sticks (tooth pick's etc) to every one and let them all have a go at trying to kill him with one Thumbs Up

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tokarev · World Chat Champion Joined: 20 Jan 2005 Karma :

Saddam's brother got hanged a couple of days ago. This one went wrong. He got his head ripped off as he fell with the rope.

Horrible way to go.

greatmoorred · Nearly there... Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

Yeah, i read a good article in the Daily Mail ( sorry ) the other day.
It was saying that bravery and even heroism were not confined to good people.
A lot of very bad people, Saddam and Herman Goering, for example showed great courage in the face of death.
Apparently Hitler won a couple of medals in WW1.
So even though he deserved it i agree that it wasnt dealt with very well.
Probably the only brave thing he did in his life.

THE MESSIAH · Nitrous Nuisance Joined: 02 Sep 2006 Karma :

thing is before watching it I would have said all the usual things,
hang him by the boz etc but after watching it I was surprised how
it made me feel Confused

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greatmoorred · Nearly there... Joined: 13 Jul 2005 Karma :

I suppose some of it would be that you were watching a real person die.
We all watch films where arnie or bruce knock off a dozen bad guys, but we know they are only acting.

Edicap · Spanner Monkey Joined: 30 Oct 2006 Karma :

Not having a pop at you Messiah, I actually find it quite disturbing that people actually want to watch such things? Having been involved with death, if you like, in my line of work, its the most sickening thing ever.

With regards to his punishment. I think he should have been left to see out the rest of his life behind bars. Hanging is barbaric in my opinion, aren't we supposed to be better than that?
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colin1 · Captain Safety Joined: 17 Feb 2005 Karma :

what are you talking about, bush has to show he beat saddam

if saddam was put in prison, some day he might be let out and run the country again
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Dan 4RR · World Chat Champion Joined: 02 Dec 2004 Karma :

Who is this Sudam Wink

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Johnny GSX-R · World Chat Champion Joined: 14 Feb 2005 Karma :

I don't think he should have been executed, i think life without parole and put into solitary confinement would have been more fitting.
Its cheaper to keep a killer jailed for 100 years than to execute as the appeals go on and on and cost millions.

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killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

The enemies that we have created through the Iraq 'crisis' think very differently to us, all this 'Don't sink to their level' attitude is not going to get us very far.
After what i've seen extremist people over there do to some of our service men and innocents, it was in many ways a good thing he was dealt with over there with a bit of rope and stool.

Also you have to bear in mind that Suddam wasn't really that bothered.
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Annabella · Like a person, only smaller Joined: 03 Feb 2002 Karma :

I agree Messiah. I watched the video because I did not want to miss out on such a seemingly important piece of modern culture. I had read news articles describing people's outrage at the method of execution and wanted to judge it for myself.

I must admit I found myself incredibly upset and disappointed. Saddam was a ruthless, heartless ruler and I know that he inflicted far worse on others; yet the video made me feel completely deflated. His execution felt no better and no more dignified than that of Ken Bigley's, Saddam has been replaced with a ruling government as bad as he was. I just felt that there really was no hope for peace, freedom and democracy.

Of course, Jon took the mick and told me I was hormonal and shouldn't have watched the video anyway due to my intense dislike of 'shooty bangy' films Laughing

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craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

without spending hours searching google for the article, I would like to point out that recently US Generals have been saying they actually respected the way Saddam managed to keep a lid on the bubbling violence that has always been ready to ignite since the 1919 Paris Peace conferences when the UK, the USA, France, Italy and Japan.

It was during this period the 5 big nations split Iraq moving the Kurds into one area, the Shi-ites into another and the Sunnis into another.

The secretary to the UK prime minister noted that he honestly expected civil war to break out within four years of the deal happening, because the hatred amongst the different factions was so strong.

When secretarian violence is involved it takes generations to wipe out the hatred between rival factions. Saddam never came close to doing this, but did manage to keep the parties apart. What we have done is install a government who has little control over the country whilst the different factions kill each other and anyone else in the middle.

I don;t think its so much enemies created by us, as enemies who got unleashed by us. As for Saddam's hanging, I disagreed with it but politically I think the USA would have had nothing less than Saddam swinging.

Without the obvious cultural differences I see no difference to what is happening in Iraq as there was in Northern Ireland during the troubles.

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zaknafien · Joined: 25 Mar 2002 Karma :

They executed the only man capable of holding Iraq together, now it's just a case of how many lives were willing to lose before we pull out and let it descend into the inevitable civil war.

Personally if I were bush I'd be sending more troops into Afghanistan not Iraq.
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lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Yup, irrespective of what he did or who he was, he did the job we put him there for in that he held the country together. In allowing him to be executed we have extinguished any hope of Iraq ever coming through the other side of this in one piece. The civil war that wil now inevitibly happen will kill far more people than Saddam ever would have.
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craigie b · Citizen Smith Joined: 26 Jul 2004 Karma :

You should also remember the USA supplied Saddam with the chemical weapons. On another occasion the USA also granted permission for Saddam to use helicopter gunships to mow down Kurds.

And we used chemical weapons on the Iraqis long before Saddam entered power. Winston Churchil was a big advocate of using chemical weapons on Arabs and said

lilredmachine · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jan 2005 Karma :

Aye, try not to view it through blinkered eyes. Saddam spent most of his rule as a western puppet, carrying out our wishes. He was responsible for stopping the country simply melting down into an all out warzone (as it has now done).

It is easy to forget, and people have short memories.

What is food for thought is that the war that Saddam was captured under (thus being a prisoner of war) was 'illegal' (and has been stated many times as such), so does that mean that his execution was unlawful?
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