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PostPosted: 18:55 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: One for MarJay: 2007 Buell Lightning Super TT XB12STT Reply with quote

From https://www.motorcycledaily.com

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Using the same basic chassis (their super-stiff, twin-spar aluminum frame, which doubles as a fuel tank to keep the weight of the fuel down low) and motors (Buell offers two powerplants, both air/oil-cooled pushrod V-Twins derived from H-D's classic Sportster - 984cc and 1203cc), Buell has created a wide range of bikes, from sportbikes (the Firebolt) to Streetfighters (the Lightning) and even a big 'adventure bike' (the Ulysses).

The latest model from Erik Buell's creative design team is the Lighting Super TT, which takes the basic Lightning streetfighter and adds supermoto-inspired styling and features to create an aggressive urban assault machine. Because it shares it's basic architecture with the rest of the Lightning range, the XB12STT possesses all the same Buell "Trilogy of Tech" design features as its parent model.

Anyone who comes from a motocross or off-road back ground will feel immediately at home swinging a leg over the XB12STT and settling down onto the comfortable but aggressive-looking single seat unit. The riding position is very similar to most motocross bikes, with the rider sitting almost perfectly upright and controlling the bike through wide, dirt-bike style handlebars mounted to the top of the triple clamp. The Super TT is quite narrow, far slimmer than any inline-four sportbike. Still, the frame spars bulge out a bit right next to the rider's knees, offering excellent purchase for gripping the bike with your legs. The seat strikes an excellent balance between firm and soft, and at the end of a 175-mile day I wasn't wishing for anyplace different to rest my backside. Regular readers will have seen me mention in other reviews that having extremely low body fat means my butt doesn't pack much cushioning of its own, and I find very few seats that don't leave me hurting after 100 miles or so - so the TT's seating was evaluated by a particularly tough critic.

Press the starter button and the 1203cc V-Twin lurches to life, immediately settling into a slightly loping idle accompanied by the low-frequency vibration typical of big-piston Harley engines. Once you get moving, the vibration all but dissapears, but even when stopped it is in no way uncomfortable, and I actually find it kind of cool. It's a good reminder that you've got a big internal combustion engine down there, rather than some kind of electric motor.

We rode the XB12STT in a wide variety of conditions - everything from traversing Southern California's famous (or infamous) Ortega Highway, which is packed with miles of high-speed sweepers, all the way to an insanely tight, (badly) paved fire road which was only one lane wide and kept us in first gear (occasionally I got into second) for almost an hour, constantly transitioning from left to right to tackle a seemingly endless set of switchbacks deep in a valley in the mountains south of Ortega. We spent some time in traffic in the city, and even got a chance for a short romp on a relatively smooth dirt fire road. Through it all, I was extremely impressed with the Super TT's versatility and fun factor.

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With 5.63 inches of suspension travel front and rear (.91" more than the standard XB12S up front and .63" more in the rear), the STT handled rough pavement, potholes, and even a few small jumps with ease, only bottoming once throughout the day (that was my fault, as I didn't see the big dip in the road until too late, and I hit it going WAY too fast). On the extremely tight, roughly paved fire roads, the STT was in its element - the wide bars gave me tons of leverage to throw the bike from side to side, and the seat was shaped in a way that allowed me to get pretty far forward on the bike, using my weight to help keep the front end planted while trail-braking deep into each turn. As you can see from the photo, I decided to ride the XB12STT like a dirt bike, at least on the tighter stuff - personally, I felt more comfortable with my foot in position to catch the bike if I slid out on some of the gravel or dirt that dotted this poorly maintained road. Plus it was just plain FUN! Fortunately, though, I never had any big slides (well, except the ones I initiated on purpose!) - the Pirelli Scorpion Sync tires provided impressive grip and confidence on all kinds of surfaces, from smooth pavement to grainy, dirty, rough roads that looked like they'd been paved decades ago and maybe used to transport tanks (the military kind propelled by metal treads) in the years since.

As you can probably tell, I had tons of fun riding the Super TT, and a lot of this was due to the handling. From the fast sweepers of Ortega Highway to the tight first-gear switchbacks of our secret fire road, nothing seemed to faze this bike - and all this without touching the suspension adjustments all day! I even enjoyed our short foray into the dirt, and was amazed at how well the Super TT handled and how fast I was able to go through the corners - for tires that are much more road-biased than the near-knobbies found on adventure bikes (which the Buell isn't, but it is similar to one in some ways), the Pirelli Scorpion Syncs had really impressive grip in the dirt. My confidence in the front end carried over into the dirt as well, and I soon found myself getting on the throttle early and throwing the STT sideways coming out of the dirt corners. I wouldn't suggest tackling technical single-track or Baja whoops, but for the occasional foray onto dirt fire roads, the Super TT is perfectly capable.

Like the standard Lightning, I was very impressed with the feel and stopping power offered by the Super TT's ZTL (Zero Torsional Load) perimeter-mounted front brake. Initial bite was strong without being snatchy, and excellent feedback was available at the lever - along with the confidence-inspiring front end, the excellent brake feel played a big part in my willingness to trail-brake deep into tight corners on crappy pavement. When you have to scrub off a ton of speed in a hurry (like I did when I finally spotted that huge dip, just about 40 or 50 feet before I hit it!), the ZTL brake is willing and able, and the rear brake works well to keep the bike level when used in conjunction with the front.

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The 1203cc air/oil-cooled pushrod V-Twin doesn't pack a lot of peak horsepower, and can feel a tad wheezy when reaching for its 7000rpm redline (despite Buell's claim that 103 peak crankshaft horsepower is attained at 6800rpm), but this somewhat outdated design more than makes up for any lack of top-end with expansive torque and supremely flexible midrange. As long as you're carrying at least 2,500rpm, the Buell can create linear forward progress linked directly to the position of your right wrist. You'll note that the word 'flexible' was an appropriate description of the Super TT's handling character, and this goes a long way towards explaining why the powerplant, a paragon of ancient technology (now fuel injected) seemingly in sharp contrast to the advanced chassis design, is actually an excellent match for the Super TT's hooligan character. Yes, the Buell seems to be saying (while thumping away at a red light) wheelie off the line, then throw me around roughly with those wide handlebars and slide the back wheel through the 90-degree right at the next intersection - I love this kind of treatment, can't you tell!

Nevertheless, underneath the hooligan attitude, it can be a very practical machine (except, perhaps for the lack of passenger accomodations). Surprisingly, freeway windblast is unexceptional at a 75-80mph cruising speed, despite the minimalist number-plate style front fairing. The torquey V-Twin excels in relaxed around-town use, and as mentioned previously, the seating position is all-day comfortable. In short, the Buell Lightning Super TT XB12STT can be a great partner for your mood swings. A rare thing, indeed.
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PostPosted: 19:20 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: One for MarJay: 2007 Buell Lightning Super TT XB12STT Reply with quote

Am I the only one that thought Buell had moved into the learner market, reading that as 'XB125TT'? Smile
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PostPosted: 19:21 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always wanted a buell, i still do Smile


Yes G i thought that too.
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PostPosted: 20:06 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

dont like those rear mud guard things.
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ive allways liked the look of Buell`s.

Belt drive though?
Would seem more prone to failure. Question
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

WOW i don't normally say this to bikes, but that is horrible.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Ive allways liked the look of Buell`s.

Belt drive though?
Would seem more prone to failure. Question


The opposite in fact. Harleys (and hence Buells) have been belt drive for years. They system is very tough and reliable. It's only because chains are easier to work with when trying for maximum possible power and speeds (i.e. Jap sportsbike trends) that the chain has become the norm.
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PostPosted: 22:50 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Reppyboyo wrote:
Ive allways liked the look of Buell`s.

Belt drive though?
Would seem more prone to failure. Question


Apparently you can get 15,000 miles out of an early 9R belt, and the current ones are supposed to last for 50,000+ without adjustment or lubrication.

It does have a chain drive too, but its inside the engine case and drives the belt.

Back to the original topic:

That is fooking hideous. Erik should know better. To be honest I've never liked the lightning, the Ully is just trying to skim money from the R1200GS type market and this thing looks awful.

The best bike they make is blatantly the firebolt, and its a shame they are all now a variation on a theme. What I would like to see next (and probably the only thing that will get me to open my wallet) is a liquid cooled firebolt.

The lightning is acceptable, but the City X is designed to appeal to upmarket city types trying to avoid the congestion charge... and that bike is white.

Why would anyone want a white bike unless its a Pan or a K75?

Those numberboards are also awful.

C'mon Erik, you can do better. C- must try harder.
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PostPosted: 22:55 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I actually think it looks really cool and I'd buy one if I had lots of spare money........But then I ride an XJ600 so what do I know about cool!
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PostPosted: 23:03 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i admit i dont know much about buells, but i always think interesting design for keeping weight low, but a shame about the engine.

I am a bit curious about how they ride.

i might try one at next years nec bike show
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PostPosted: 23:28 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i agree with you mark, the tt is nasty. Sick they are white so you can customize the panels and make it your own easer thats what they say on the www anyway. but i do own a city x and love it and i'm not an upmarket city type. sweeping judgements arnt cool Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 23:52 - 22 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

They took he same bike, changed the plastics and the suspension slightly again and called it a new bike. How many 'different' bikes can they come up with from one. Laughing
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PostPosted: 00:39 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

colin1 wrote:
i admit i dont know much about buells, but i always think interesting design for keeping weight low, but a shame about the engine.

I am a bit curious about how they ride.

i might try one at next years nec bike show


Do try one. You will either love it ot hate it.

I have come from years of big 4s, tried the triple, then went for a Buell. Pure grin factor.

I too dislike the look of the TT, what they really need is a proper tourer, but Marjay you will have to wait years for water cooled. Eric has been quite vocal about his resistance to them.
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PostPosted: 11:30 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

keyser soze wrote:
i agree with you mark, the tt is nasty. Sick they are white so you can customize the panels and make it your own easer thats what they say on the www anyway. but i do own a city x and love it and i'm not an upmarket city type. sweeping judgements arnt cool Mr. Green


I'm not saying the *owners* are upmarket city types, I'm saying the bike was /aimed/ at upmarket city types. Its just luck that the bike happens to appeal to other people too! Smile
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PostPosted: 11:31 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Gradog wrote:
I too dislike the look of the TT, what they really need is a proper tourer, but Marjay you will have to wait years for water cooled. Eric has been quite vocal about his resistance to them.


Yeah I know. Thats why I'm happy with my Firebolt. Smile
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PostPosted: 11:36 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's only nice in a sort of "i feel sorry for it" way.

Certainly wouldn't get me to part with my hard-earned cash.
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PostPosted: 11:38 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weird looking thing. I like it.
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