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gixxer ryder
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PostPosted: 02:12 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: derestricting my gsxr600 Reply with quote

Hey guys, i have gone out and bought a gsxr 600 Laughing and got it restricted to 33bhp to comply with crappy laws and stuff, but after 6 months of riding a heavy 125 i want unleash the full power and potential of the machine Twisted Evil , it feels like there is a mechanical stop somewhwere in the throttle cable but dont know where, please can sum1 give me sum advise, cheers
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PostPosted: 10:35 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What year is it? If it's an SRAD, there will be thingiebobbers in the carbs, which are eaily accessed by taking the tank and the airbox off.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

its a 2003 edition gsxr, its wierd cos its only got an eigth of a turn on the throttle and tops out at bout 90mph!
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PostPosted: 21:34 - 23 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gixxer ryder wrote:
but after 6 months of riding a heavy 125


gixxer ryder wrote:
its a 2003 edition gsxr, its wierd cos its only got an eigth of a turn on the throttle and tops out at bout 90mph!


90mph is faster than most 125's will ever dream of going. Learn to walk before you run. Confused
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PostPosted: 01:21 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

trust me im not just walkin, im hopping skippin and jumpin Cool , the bike is not as fun wit the resricter in it and i just wana have some fun Very Happy
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PostPosted: 10:00 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

your fun could end up in someone else's nightmare if you cause an accident & your insurance company decides not to pay out because your bike is illegally derestricted. Is it really worth it?
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PostPosted: 11:12 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

7 months ago i was hit by an uninsured driver in my car, even tho he did not have a lisence and insurance or anything else legal on the car, i can claim my money back through the motor insurance bereu, if i am stupid enough to cause an accident i have the money in my pocket to back it up, unless its a ferrari or sumit Laughing, the restrictors need to come out Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 11:13 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The insurance company will never not pay out 3rd party if he's not riding in accordfance with his licence. He'll just get bent over by them once they have paid out.

It sounds like you have a throttle stop on there which is interesting, but I don't know how to solve it. You could always just take it to a garage, it shouldn't be more than an hours' labour if that's all it is.
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PostPosted: 11:29 - 24 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I cant condone illegal activites....

But if you lift the tank, look on the LH side of the bike where the cable attaches to the throttle bodie linkages... then turn the throttle you will see the device thats preventing full rotation and the rest if upto you Wink
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PostPosted: 01:12 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

i lifted the tank and there is a metal plate(goldy sort of colour), which is stopping the the throttle cable turning all the way, but it looks really complicated its all joined together and i dont wanna fuck the bike, please can ne1 tell me how to get it off, cheers Smile
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PostPosted: 09:48 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm not sure that it would be just a throttle stop restricting it. In some cases of Fuel Injection the ECU has a different mapping to restrict the bike as well. I know of a recent SV that was restricted in this way.
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PostPosted: 12:40 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

you have enough money to pay someones medical/help bills for life if you disable them in a high speed crash? I seriously doubt it.....
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PostPosted: 13:13 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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you have enough money to pay someones medical/help bills for life if you disable them in a high speed crash? I seriously doubt it.....


That's what 3rd party is for! Don't be stupid. Besides the fact that any car in a high speed crash with a bike is going to come off a lot better than he is. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 13:30 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

he probably wont even have 3rd party if his insurance finds out hes not restricted. I know that if i ran an insurance company and some geezer was riding a bike not in accordance with his licence i wouldnt give a penny out. Im not bothered about him, he makes his choice and takes his chance.
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PostPosted: 13:41 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

My Speed Four had the throttle restrictor, but I could get 110mph out of it with it in. Take the tank off and remove the airbox, Mine only had 1 screw holding it on.

And every one that is moaning about insurance and restriction, remember your insurance isn't valid if you have a different exhaust (illeagle or not) or any other non stock parts without your insurance being notified, same as ridnig with a tinted visor without carrying a spare.
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PostPosted: 13:47 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir_K3 wrote:
he probably wont even have 3rd party if his insurance finds out hes not restricted. I know that if i ran an insurance company and some geezer was riding a bike not in accordance with his licence i wouldnt give a penny out. Im not bothered about him, he makes his choice and takes his chance.


Insurance companies MUST provide 3rd party cover even if he has insured his bike as being a gsxr 600 and it has a 1000 engine in it turbo'd with nitrous. They can then sue him, and they likely will, but they legally have to pay out any 3rd parties. Having invalidated insurance is not the same as having no insurance, Invalidated insurance only puts you at risk as 3rd parties will be paid out, then the MIB will hunt you down for the cash. If you ran an insurance company you would have no choice other than to pay out, its the law.

IMO this wont happen though, they CANT just dismantle the bike and go oh LOL no restrictor kit. The bike has to be under 33bhp, the law is not specific about exactly how. If you are in an accident bad enough that they want to strip the bike and investigate, they will have real difficulties provng it was over 33 bhp, as it is likely to be a mangled wreck, incapable of being dyno'd.

Not that im condoning it mind, though i do think the lack of DAS for under 21's is bullshit.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

chris-red wrote:

your insurance isn't valid if you have a different exhaust (illeagle or not) or any other non stock parts without your insurance being notified, same as ridnig with a tinted visor without carrying a spare.


It's illegal, not a sick bird. Laughing

You'll probably find a lot of people declare their mods, only puts up your premium by about £20.

Well tbh you're entitled to your opinion, but it's people like this guy that make the honest one's insurance premiums higher. I ride within the terms of my 33bhp license, and I can actually corner.

Most people that jump straight on a full power bike end up either dead or scared of corners.
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PostPosted: 14:07 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Keir_K3 wrote:
he probably wont even have 3rd party if his insurance finds out hes not restricted. I know that if i ran an insurance company and some geezer was riding a bike not in accordance with his licence i wouldnt give a penny out. Im not bothered about him, he makes his choice and takes his chance.


Rolling Eyes Yes, because insurance companies are just allowed to do that, they're not regulated or anything. They have to pay out, they can also whack a massive fine on the party and cancel his insurance from then on in. But the fact is very few police officers seem to know about the law categorically, and there's few situations where the restriction of the bike is called into question - look at Andy C's accident.
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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But the fact is very few police officers seem to know about the law categorically


true! i was questioned by the police on my bandit 600 restricted to 33bhp, they were convinced that even though i have done my bike liscence that im only aloud to ride upto 125...... nuggets!!!
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PostPosted: 02:45 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

im sure we have all been in the situation when a big powerful bike comes along side you, you wana open the bike up to keep up wit them but there is just nothin there, its just not fair, i have been riding for years now and have no problem in cornering - ive been through more sliders than socks Dance! newayz, all my mates have got full power bikes nd i just wana keep up, (thanks chris-red, il try the screw 2moz Thumbs Up )

as 4 the insurance, they can suck my plums Wink , they should try 2 catch the 17 year olds drivin in their modded chavaliers and stuff Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 09:54 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gixxer ryder wrote:


as 4 the insurance, they can suck my plums Wink , they should try 2 catch the 17 year olds drivin in their modded chavaliers and stuff Twisted Evil


....doing the same as them makes you one of them.


Wait till you are hit by a Fuckwit without insurance(I Have), you will have a long battle to get any payout.

Leave it as it is for another six months, you will live longer.

If you do remove it I hate to say this but I hope you get pulled and have the book thrown at you! Thats why people who stay leagal have high premiums to pay for uninsured riders/drivers.
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PostPosted: 16:57 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:

If you do remove it I hate to say this but I hope you get pulled and have the book thrown at you! Thats why people who stay leagal have high premiums to pay for uninsured riders/drivers.

I bet you never had to restrict your bike when you were younger. There are people who do far worse things than de-restrict a bike. Out of interest have you ever ridden a bike that is restricted?

I only ever de-restricted mine because the acceleration in the mid-range was seriously hampered by the restriction. Top speed isn't even a bonus cause I dare not go that fast on a regular basis.

I think if the Police AND Insurance companies cracked down on it more than usual I think a lot more people would have stayed legal. I know I would have. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:14 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Jon B wrote:

I bet you never had to restrict your bike when you were younger.


The 125s were restricted to 12hp when i had mine and I only removed the restricters on passing my test.

I have also been on a restricted mid range bike (600) bike. If it was the feeling it was dangering people due to lack of power then fair enough, but it doesn't, it will still beat your chav hot hatch of the lights in restricted form.

The OP has lasted 6months on restriction, can't see how another 6 is going to kill him.
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PostPosted: 17:22 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Fair enough. I kept mine in for a year and if I hadn't have done a track-day they probably would have stayed in longer.
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