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woo
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PostPosted: 14:04 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Horses! Dogs! People! Bikes! Reply with quote

Why is that people who ride horses as well as police who ride horses on public roads are not required to clean up the mess their horses make when the horse does a poo poo!?!

If i walk a dog up the street and he does a poo in the side of the road and i dont clean it up i get a fine!

A horse does this and nothing happens to the owner or the police!

If i got off my bike and did a poo in the street i would be arrested!

The amount of times i have seen police horses and public horses on London roads and country lanes and have had to be extra cautious cos of poo on the road is disturbing!

I mean if you were riding ur bike and the wheel slipped cos of poo and you end up slidding into more poo further down the road and become unable to move due to injury with horse poo on you, i mean thats just nasty!
Could you imagine lying on the floor with horse poo smeared on your front visor and not being able to do anything!
If the injury dont kill you the smell will! (LOL!)

But besides that this is a serious valid point!

Or am i going too far?
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PostPosted: 14:06 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Horses! Dogs! People! Bikes! Reply with quote

woo wrote:
But besides that this is a serious valid point!


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PostPosted: 14:07 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You just wanted to type "poo" a lot, didn't you? Smile
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PostPosted: 14:11 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

This thread made me LOL Laughing



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If i got off my bike and did a poo in the street i would be arested!


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PostPosted: 14:22 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Riding a horse on anything other than a field nowhere near me should be banned.

Riding a horse down NSL roads with blind bends at 8 on a monday morning should be considered an act of violence. Proceeding to shout at me for managing to slow down in time for your mobile chicane of death should be considered reasonable provocation for setting fire to the horse.

I am not a horse fan.
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PostPosted: 14:23 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:


I am not a horse fan.



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PostPosted: 14:27 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:
Riding a horse on anything other than a field nowhere near me should be banned.


NIMBY!


Unfortunately, horses need to be exercised, and that involves taking them along roads to get them to more suitable places.

There are two levels of horse rider, those that are 'road trained' and are responsible. There are those that say thank you to you when you slow down, they keep close to the edge of the road or pull over if possible and they wear a helmet and a reflective vest. The others are the irritatable girls who wear wellies, ride two abrest having a conversation/using a mobile phone, glare at you when you attempt to get past them and have no control over their temperamental horses.


Back on the matter in hand, there are subtle differences between horse poo, dog poo and person poo. My gran would have had a fit if you moaned to her about horse poo, she would simply state that it was a gift and go and get out there with a shovel before it went cold. It's bloomin' good for compost Thumbs Up

Dog poo on the other hand is more prone to be carrying disease, smells worse and doesn't help your roses grow.
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PostPosted: 14:33 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:

NIMBY!


Unfortunately, horses need to be exercised, and that involves taking them along roads to get them to more suitable places.
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The horse should also live in the field.

And not exactly NIMBY, I'd very much prefer if it didn't happen anywhere

In their defence, a lot of the riders I encouter are pretty good, and wave you past when it's safe, and I always give them a lot of respect due to a bad experience my dad had once.

But there is no possible reason to be taking a horse down a NSL road at 8 in the morning.

Doing so was both reckless and seriously dangerous.
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PostPosted: 14:43 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

well like ive said before if you have an accident due to horse poo on a public road and sustain injury which makes you unable to move and you have horse poo on your helmet & visor or if your unlucky and get horse poo inside your visor due to it cracking due to impact, and the horse poo is on your face or bottom or top lip, you will be very very pissed! & have real breath! (LOL!)

This may sound funny or like a wind up but its a very serious thing which can easily happen, mistakes & accidents happen!

Same as if the horse poo causes a car wheel to skid, causing the car to crash into whatever or into a biker who then falls into the horse poo further down the road and ends up with horse poo on him as well as the bike!

It can happen and probably has but the problem is that the horse owner will walk away scot free!

Whereas a dog owner who let his dog poo in the road and not clean it up wont!

There is no law or social responsbility aplied to horse owners and the mess their horse make on the public roads!
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What type of animal has a cunt in the middle of it's back?
































A police horse.
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PostPosted: 14:48 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sickpup wrote:
Dave McCool wrote:


I am not a horse fan.



Make good burgers.


Acceptable burgers; they're not even very good at that.
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PostPosted: 15:30 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:
Riding a horse down NSL roads with blind bends at 8 on a monday morning should be considered an act of violence. Proceeding to shout at me for managing to slow down in time for your mobile chicane of death should be considered reasonable provocation for setting fire to the horse.


Can't agree with you more there, was riding down a road minding my own business keeping to the speed limits, as I came round a corner, oh shit a horse, nothing I can do I'm leaning to turn so just have to keep pressing on, the horse seemed annoyed by me but the rider didn't go over.

I do think its ok to have horses on some roads, but busy nsl roads, its just not a smart idea at all,
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PostPosted: 17:05 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Why cant they just... fuck off? If you own a horse, you should be made to transport it in a trailer to an area (field) where it poses no danger to motorists, pedestrians, or scenery.

If you cant afford a trailer... the animal should be destroyed, as you obviously cant afford its upkeep... right? Eh?
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PostPosted: 17:16 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't like poo, woo.

If you can afford a horse you can afford to buy it a treadmill/field/cage/whatever.
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PostPosted: 17:19 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As I've already stated, the horse should live in the field, or possibly, for a short period, the holding pen at the glue factory.

They once had a place on the road, but now they don't.

If someone is genuinely using it as a means of transport then I have no real issue with that, but not riding it on the road for pleasure.

I mean seriously, if I were to invent a means of transport that:

Arrow Had no means of direct control, steering and braking done through a process of hoping that the machine is in the right mood...

Arrow Weighed about half a tonne

Arrow Genuinely had a mind of it's own

Arrow Was terrified of other vehicles to the extent that It will spit off it's passenger and possibly trample all over them, if another vehicle comes too close, or travels at more than 6m.p.h. in their vicinity.

Arrow Girls of 5 and above would be encouraged to ride on the road by their mothers

Arrow Left big piles of foul smelling waste all over the road

Arrow Took up about a third of the road, but won't travel at more than 5m.p.h.

Arrow Was really ugly and stupid and smelled really bad

Do you think they'd let my contraption on the road?

Without tax?

And with no age/license/training restriction?
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PostPosted: 17:20 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rolling Eyes Whatever happened to tolerance? If I see a horse, I brake down to at least 15mph, pull my clutch in and coast past. I once arsed it up completely because I was going far too fast down a stretch and didn't see it in time, and went past at about 60. In fairness they weren't wearing a reflective jacket, but it wasn't dark and it was my fault for not observing enough. I felt like a total knobhead.

If you're going round a corner and one just comes at you, and you've got no time to react, well fine, it might get startled, and there's not a lot you can do about that, except if the worst happens and the rider gets tossed, stop and help them out and hope they're not ignorant enough to be very irate at you.

As for the horse poo, horses eat so much hay it poses absolutely no threat to bikes. 99% of the stuff will have already been squished into a poo pancake by cars, and if it hasn't then it's clearly visible.
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PostPosted: 17:26 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I know a few people that have come off on horse shit.

If you ride basically an expensive live pritt stick then don't put it on the fucking road where everyone else has to make an effort not to be killed by your essentially wild animal.
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PostPosted: 17:29 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:


If someone is genuinely using it as a means of transport then I have no real issue with that, but not riding it on the road for pleasure.



Like a fair number of bikers?




So much of that post sounded like you were having a dig at my old GS550.
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PostPosted: 17:30 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Go on, have a proper gripe. Smile
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PostPosted: 17:32 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Rookie wrote:
Rolling Eyes Whatever happened to tolerance? If I see a horse, I brake down to at least 15mph, pull my clutch in and coast past. I once arsed it up completely because I was going far too fast down a stretch and didn't see it in time, and went past at about 60. In fairness they weren't wearing a reflective jacket, but it wasn't dark and it was my fault for not observing enough. I felt like a total knobhead.


I too give horses a lot of respect on the road, my Dad once startled one and it threw the little girl off. My dad then heard a loud crunch from under his wheels, accompanied by the car riding up over what seemed to be a fairly big bump. He was convinced he'd run over the girl's head (he was still learning at this point) but luckily it was only her helmet, which she'd failed to put on properly.

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If you're going round a corner and one just comes at you, and you've got no time to react, well fine, it might get startled, and there's not a lot you can do about that, except if the worst happens and the rider gets tossed, stop and help them out and hope they're not ignorant enough to be very irate at you.


My point is they shouldn't be there. There are fields for that sort of thing; if you don't have a field, you don't need a horse.

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As for the horse poo, horses eat so much hay it poses absolutely no threat to bikes. 99% of the stuff will have already been squished into a poo pancake by cars, and if it hasn't then it's clearly visible.


Still bloody annoying though...
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PostPosted: 17:36 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ichy wrote:
Dave McCool wrote:


If someone is genuinely using it as a means of transport then I have no real issue with that, but not riding it on the road for pleasure.



Like a fair number of bikers?




So much of that post sounded like you were having a dig at my old GS550.


Are you sure that the dealer didn't, in fact, hang a torch around a horse's neck, write GS550 on the side, and tell you a small lie?

And no, bikers, importantly, don't get in the way. They are licensed, and do not act as mid-corner roadblocks with no warning.
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PostPosted: 18:55 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dave McCool wrote:
And no, bikers, importantly, don't get in the way. They are licensed, and do not act as mid-corner roadblocks with no warning.


Rubbish. I've lost track of the number of times I've been met head on in a corner by bikes going the other way, overcooking and running into my lane. If I'd been in a car rather than on a bike there would have been a number of fatalities, as it is there are so many killed doing this type of shit that the powers that be are constantly enacting new "strategies" to try and curb the problem. Not even touching on the other variety of twat who will overtake on any stretch of road because the idiots get so busy pretending to be a race rider they forget a small and crucial difference between track and road, there's traffic coming from the other direction.

As a case in point, and example of "licensed" road users behaving sensibly and causing no danger whatsoever to other people then go to Bassets Pole over the summer, or head over the Cat and Fiddle, or Matlock Bath (I could go on, just a few examples).
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PostPosted: 19:05 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I live in the country, I find that horse poo doesn't smell that bad, infact it's almost nice! Embarassed

Someone at my old old work hit a massive patch of mud/shite outside a farm on a sharp corner and went flying, ended up covered head to toe in shite Laughing
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PostPosted: 19:12 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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Why cant they just... fuck off? If you own a horse, you should be made to transport it in a trailer to an area (field) where it poses no danger to motorists, pedestrians, or scenery.


then there will be a post along the lines of..

"Why cant they just... fuck off. Bloody horseboxes/horse trailer being driven at 10mph the wrong way down the motorway etc etc"

Horses were there before cars, as is obvious, why should they be refused access to the roads?

All horses and riders are different, just like motorists, motorcyclists, and cyclists... you have a share of very decent folk, and a share of useless wankers who shouldnt be allowed to be in charge of a vehicle using the roads, and then you also have a bunch of pure cunts who show total disregard for everyone else. These people surface, driving cars, riding bikes, and riding horses.

i used to be very anti horse, before getting sucked inevitably into the horse world by the other half, now i've got one of my own (as well as a bike) so i feel i can safely put a view across from both sides of the fence

responsible horse owners have third party insurance, just like motorists, it is inexpensive and covers any eventualities that may occur if your horse got loose or any damage it might cause under your control

horses dont cause damage to the roads or pollution, so whats to be gained by them paying tax

cyclists dont have insurance, nor do they pay tax, nor do they think the highway code applies to them in any way, horse owners generally show far more respect for the rules of the road than your average cyclist

i appreciate those who drive past slowly, just as i try to reciprocate when im driving/riding and i come across horses

surprisingly enough there arent that many fields that you are free to ride in, everywhere is owned by somebody and chances are you wont have free permission to trample big hoof prints across it, horses are ridden on bridleways, byways, rights of way etc, most of these are also linked my tarmac roads, so inevitably horses need to use the road, you should anticipate such animals on country roads, NSL or not

a word on horse shit, horses dont eat anything crappy, just grass and certain feed, its one of the cleanest shites you will come across, nothing toxic or harmful in it, and the smell isnt anywhere near as offensive as say dog or human excrement. i quite happily handle it with my hands, it just isnt in the same league as dog shit which as has been mentioned carries some nasty stuff, thus people need to clean it up

i'd use a horse for transport if it was even slightly practicable
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PostPosted: 19:14 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

on a final note, mud is just as likely if not more likely to be found on country roads than horse shit, as a result of other cars/tractors etc running wide onto the verge and dragging in onto the road

do a search for keith coming across a muddy road.... rather harmful

so why the big fuss about a tiny percentage of horse shite, when compared to a country full of muddy country roads

drive/ride to the conditions
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