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PostPosted: 19:34 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Cheaper fuel prices on the way? Reply with quote

Reading an artictle in The Times about Iran it's said ' Since last July, a barrel of oil has fallen from $78 to just over $50..'

The price of diesel is 87.9p at the moment and unleaded 85.7p, I remember when it increased from about $50 a barrel to $70 a barrel and the price of fuel skyrocketed! So howcome it's only gone down a few pence in the last few months???????

https://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19149-2565451,00.html

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PostPosted: 19:38 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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and unleaded 85.7p


Feck! cheapest round here is 96 minimum...

i can't see prices going down, why would they decrease their profits?

can hope for price decrease though... Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 19:38 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The whole marketing world is geared towards "the oil running out".

Ask yourself this:

Would the carmakers still be investing so much money in conventional engine design if the oil really is running out?

Simple answer: NO.

Greenhouse gas emmissions and global warming, on the other hand, are a very real prospect (which is a completely different issue to oil reserves).
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PostPosted: 19:44 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

in the short term i think it' will going down, but in the long term it will only rise
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark83 wrote:
The whole marketing world is geared towards "the oil running out".

Greenhouse gas emmissions and global warming, on the other hand, are a very real prospect (which is a completely different issue to oil reserves).


True oil isn't running out, well anytime soon, Opec's are perhaps having to invest more into taking it out of the earth.. but consider this, if CO2 emissions are a contribute to the earth heating up, the northern ice belt melts, suddenely this creates more opportunities to oil.

It's an evil cycle. And it will only change when people demand alternatives.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
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and unleaded 85.7p


Feck! cheapest round here is 96 minimum...

i can't see prices going down, why would they decrease their profits?

can hope for price decrease though... Twisted Evil


where the heck are you!?
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PostPosted: 20:07 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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PostPosted: 20:34 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Cheaper fuel prices on the way? Reply with quote

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The price of diesel is 87.9p at the moment and unleaded 85.7p, I remember when it increased from about $50 a barrel to $70 a barrel and the price of fuel skyrocketed! So howcome it's only gone down a few pence in the last few months???????


Err, if got up to the point of being just under £1 a litre. Locally it is commonly down to 83.9p a litre. Take tax into account and the real cost of the fuel has dropped from 38p a litre (at £1 retail a litre) to 23p a litre (at 83.9p a litre), the rest of the money you pay is just tax.

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PostPosted: 20:57 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How come its 96p in York?
Did you buy any lately - 84p in Middlesbrough.
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PostPosted: 21:02 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's gone down to 83.9p in the midlands (lufbra). That makes me feel short changed whenever i go back down to london!
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PostPosted: 22:16 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Re: Cheaper fuel prices on the way? Reply with quote

CR wrote:
Reading an artictle in The Times about Iran it's said ' Since last July, a barrel of oil has fallen from $78 to just over $50..'

The price of diesel is 87.9p at the moment and unleaded 85.7p, I remember when it increased from about $50 a barrel to $70 a barrel and the price of fuel skyrocketed! So howcome it's only gone down a few pence in the last few months???????

https://business.timesonline.co.uk/article/0,,19149-2565451,00.html

Bullsh*t isn't it.


well it is isnt it as they say quick to put prices up slow to bring them down it can take like 3 months before cheaper prices come through to the pump.even though crude fell within this period cheaper
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 25 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I will check and see what the average price is, I last rode nearly 2 months ago, although i doubt the price will have changed much....
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PostPosted: 20:09 - 26 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Its like everything else, the price always rockets when something is in short supply. But when the supply is fulfilled the price never falls back to where it used to be. Confused
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PostPosted: 12:29 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

85-89 is common around me. Its supprising, going from Tipton (nearest petrol station to me is in Swan Village) @85.9 and at Womburne its 88.9, at Bridgnorth its 86.9 cheapest.

Area has a lot do with it, affluent area higher prices, scratty area cheaper prices it would seem.
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PostPosted: 14:31 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The cheapest around here, the Burton-on-Trent and Derby area is 83.9 for unleaded.
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PostPosted: 14:51 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

its more to do with fiscal policy and the fact that the pound is losing value , not cus the economy is getting weaker because Gordon Brown is printing so much money out , devaluing it , to pay for his fuck up of the economy.

Gas is so cheap it had a negative price a few weeks ago,

more money in circulation = lower value since its backed up by the same amount of gold.
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PostPosted: 15:24 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

st3v3 wrote:
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and unleaded 85.7p


Feck! cheapest round here is 96 minimum...

i can't see prices going down, why would they decrease their profits?

can hope for price decrease though... Twisted Evil


84.9 Cheapest i've seen in leeds
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PostPosted: 15:26 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

83.9 in Stafford. Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 18:40 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

mark83 wrote:
The whole marketing world is geared towards "the oil running out".

Ask yourself this:

Would the carmakers still be investing so much money in conventional engine design if the oil really is running out?

Simple answer: NO.

Greenhouse gas emmissions and global warming, on the other hand, are a very real prospect (which is a completely different issue to oil reserves).


I've worked on the north sea oil rigs and i once got talking to an engineer about this and he was convinced the oil's being made as fast as we pull it out and the whole running out affair is utter crap! He did give me facts/ figures / explanations but it went over my head.
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PostPosted: 20:03 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

fredsredhat wrote:
he was convinced the oil's being made as fast as we pull it out and the whole running out affair is utter crap! He did give me facts/ figures / explanations but it went over my head.


Heard this before as well. Not heard any proof, and to be honest I am a fairly dubious of it.

However there are large amounts of oil left. Just they are more difficult to extract, so not finacially viable at current prices to extract. Added to which there are the shale oil reserves.

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PostPosted: 21:37 - 27 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

We're taxed twice on any fuel we buy. First duty is added and then on the total we pay VAT.

It would be fairer if VAT was calculated against "retail" price, and then any Treasury imposed duty added on top.

eg. 23p/litre(retail)+50p/l(duty)+VAT=86p/l

23p/l+VAT+Duty=77p/litre

9p per litre every litre - someone might accuse the government of being crooks... Wink
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PostPosted: 12:12 - 28 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Itchy wrote:
its more to do with fiscal policy and the fact that the pound is losing value


Loosing value - have you been abrad recently?

£1 = $1.96 = €1.52

The pound is stronger than it's been for years (it hit a 14 year high against the doallr last month).
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PostPosted: 13:10 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Only cus the USD is weakening even faster than the £ , when bush asks for 20bn extra they don't put taxes up 20bn they go to the fed reserve and print out 20bn extra dollars,
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What are you measuring the value of the pound against?
The £ has strengthened in recent months against both the US$ and the Euro, I can't see what major currency it's weaker in relation to?
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PostPosted: 14:32 - 29 Jan 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

most of the petrol stations round here are 83.9p a litre... Would be nice if it was cheaper though
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