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pa_broon74
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PostPosted: 14:49 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Aquygen gas? (Yahoo it) Reply with quote

Also known as Rhode's or Brown's Gas. I was just reading about this online, although; depending on what you're looking at its described as being a hoax or the answer to all our climate/oil usage woes.

Basically, its a device you can fit to your car that takes distilled water and seperates the Hydrogen and Oxygen then squirts it into the air intake of your engine. (It's currently mostly used as a substitute for oxyacetylene, I think...)

This can (allegedly) improve fuel consumption by upto 28% (not an issue for bikers really,) increase power output (GRRRR!!) and helps the engine run cleaner.

So, any bike applications? Or is it a big fat hoax?

https://www.hydrogen-boost.com/

or

https://www.savefuel.ca/oxy-hydrogen/
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PostPosted: 14:53 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://www.bikechatforums.com/viewtopic.php?t=103283&highlight=water+fuelled+bike

Paddy had a similar if not same idea.

Not heard from him in a while, maybe it did blow up eventually Thinking Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:21 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Feck.

I only understood about one word in ten from that thread.

As far as I can gather, for all the improvement it'd be, you'd be as well strapping a couple of supersoakers aimed backwards to your bike.

Just think, you could devise a system of gears and pulleys to pump them up using the rotational motion of the back wheel... Maybe... Cool (I'm imagining a great new leisure activity involving shooting other people on bikes with waterguns in a James Bond stylee.)

Stupid idea, although it probably would make my bike go faster, which is sad... Sad
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PostPosted: 17:57 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's rubbish. It's the sort of thing you'd find on ebay, the fact the websites contain testimonials is a blinding statement that they're full of shit.

I would go through the website point by point, but I don't think there's any need. If it worked it'd be in use by everyone by now. I also find it hard to believe their electrolysis cell can produce 2.5litres of oxygen and hydrogen per minute.. so they've fallen at the first hurdle.
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The science is sound but you need more electrical energy to split water than you get out of the process.
Not very green unless you charge your beefed up batteries with solar or similar.
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PostPosted: 22:28 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yahoo it???? WTF who uses Yahoo...Google FTW!https://img.photobucket.com/albums/v112/finglonga/Finglonga%20Inc/google.gif
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PostPosted: 23:04 - 01 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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It's rubbish. It's the sort of thing you'd find on ebay, the fact the websites contain testimonials is a blinding statement that they're full of shit.


Not quite. This kind of 'technology' is there and can be used(if you make a home-made device), but they wouldn't put such a thing into the market, just think if people didn't to use petrol, the world economy would be fucked. I mean, they can hardly tax water...

Also the amount of output it gives is no way as good as the resources you'd need to put it into working practice. It just doesn't pay it's way. Sad
Also, the fact that a small handfull of americans have tried this, and have 'disappeared/gone in hiding' due to political forces not being too happy, oh, and an Indian guy who has it powering his car means it's not too far fetched, I don't reckon it is too good, but if it's found to be tweaked and could work, why not?

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PostPosted: 03:28 - 02 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How about that...

True though, when you get 'testimonials' on websites you always think: "Aye right, they so wrote that themselves..."

I dare say the technology is there and I also dare say that the oil people wouldn't appreciate anyone threatening their profits.

I just want my bike to go faster. Well, not faster, if there's the merest sensation of a headwind, I'm crawling. Lorries overtake me, its embarrasing. Embarassed

Its a moot point, I should just sit the rest of the test and get a bigger bike Cool

I've turned my heating down, I'm off-setting nicely... Razz
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PostPosted: 20:10 - 02 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You don't understand my logic behind calling the products you've posted links to as rubbish.

Read that thread by the guy who reckoned he could make his bike run on it, that's full of in depth answers as to why it doesn't work well.

Splitting Water into Hydrogen and Oxygen is a hugely simple electrolysis, but it's very slow and requires a lot of electricity to do. Therefore your engine supplies that electricity in the first place and the power you would get from igniting the gas produced would not return the power you firstly put in. It's simply chemistry and conservation of energy, you can't get something from nothing, bearing in mind burnt H and O returns to water...your starting product.
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PostPosted: 20:15 - 02 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

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the amount of output it gives is no way as good as the resources you'd need to put it into working practice


true, there isn't enough efficiency for it to properly work, so it's not a logical step just yet, but in the future I reckon they will research and consider it, just a waiting game. Confused
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