LEO VINCE OR ARROW???

[james8whippy]

Hello,

Got a 2005 Tzr 50 Dunno which to get LEO VINCE or ARROW??

which sounds deeper??? which one is bigger in size??
whats your opinions?
and where would i go about getting a Leo Vince as i cant find them anywhere?

Cheers
James

[Strapstah]

Arrow. Ebay.
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[james8whippy]

Whys the arrow better??

Cheers
James

[0ddball]

Depends whether you prefer a bee in a tin can or a wasp in a tin can.

[james8whippy]

haha which one sounds deeper out the two?? and is their any size difference?

Cheers
James

[chris1-4-7]

The leo vincie system's perform very poorly on scooters. However, although your's is not a scoter it is still as 50cc engine and so i imagine it will be of the same standard. I may be wrong though. Arrow systems are very good systems overall on the other hand and so i feel that would be the safer bet.

Chris(Brum)

[james8whippy]

so basically Ive got the size and sound with the leo vinci and the performance with the arrow???

Ohhhhhh decisions decisions

Cheers
James

[Strapstah]

Arrow = Deeper Proper Two stroke base noise
Leo Vinche = Squeaky but ! very solid and strong < will last ages untill u die.

sooooo, seen as u cant get a Polini Pro Race 3 Exhaust like me, i'd choose arrow.

Also u might need to rejet your carb. Or get a bigger 1 and rejet it. Bigger carbs do ALOT, trust.

A little pic of my beuty to make u horny while u choose ur exhaust.

https://i8.tinypic.com/2jg6iop.jpg
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[james8whippy]

Cheers for that

James

[derbi x-treme]

well no ones actually mentioned the one important thing lol the performance arrow is high revving so you get a short burst of power at high rpm which resluts in better acceleration and topspeed the v6 is much more of a midrange pipe givng fairly good power theough the revs but is still a lot better than standard. so purely on performance get the arrow but if you do mostly town riding (low speed ) then you'll want the v6 as its alot more practical.

witht the arrow it will be no power, no power, no power, all your power, change gear and the process starts again thats the best i can explain it lol

if you like the arrow check out the gianelli pipe its exactly the same as the arrow except in my opinion has a much nicer silencer

[james8whippy]

Ye thanks that really helps I'm more of a town person so the Leo Vince sound more me and the quality is more me so I'm properly a idiot in saying this but it looks like I'm gonna choose the v6 properly because i like the shape of the end can.

would i need to change the jets atal? and if so where do i get them and whats the best number of jets.

ALSO I WOULD LIKE TO THANK EVERYONE FOR THEIR INPUT!!!

Cheers
James

[Strapstah]

[james8whippy]

Damm Before you starting posting to me Strapstah i just bought a V6 off flebay sooo im a idiot really arent i!! but still its done now sooo i gotta put up with it but ill properly like it and im sorry for wasting your time!!! and if i get a air filter (a k&n if they do one????) that should help shouldn't it?? and what about the jets what should i do about those??

Cheers
James

[Strapstah]

Dont worry the V6 is good. U wont be dissapointed, u need to go up higher sizes on your jet, i forgot how much exactly. Get higher jets
(just take so shop only cheap £2/4? around that area). Just go to your dealer and ask them for a rejet

If you want an airfilter then try and get a Malossi Powerfilter Foam airfilter, which are really good. BUT! Foam air filters not good in winter when they are exposed. but what i done with mine was put in in the original airfilter box place with a airfilter extension, and made Loads of holes in that box.

Then it stays dry and gets enough air = no problems in winter.
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[Strapstah]

https://www.scootparts.com/shop/index2UK.html

go there, really good shop for 50cc's.
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[james8whippy]

Cheer mate youve been such a help!!!!

Thanks Alot
James

[derbi x-treme]

yeah scoot parts is a good shop check out all the other dutch and german shops as theyre all very cheap and sell good stuff if u like the shape of the v6 silencer as i said earlier get the gianelli an even nicer silencer and a much better looking expansion chamber (pretty welding lol) heres what the silecers look like

https://www.opvoeren.nl/shop/uk/onderdelen_res.asp?Merk=Derbi&Type=Senda%20SM%20/%20Senda%202000%20/%20Senda%20DRD&Afk=senda&Srt=demp&Srtn=Dempers&Srtuk=Silencers

and the v6 is considerably faster than a stock pipe as it doesnt restrict the airflow at all and is much better quality it still offers a powerband but is wider and spreads into lower rpms so isnt as punchy

[Welshd1k]

Bollocks to all the arrow pipes etc on a 50cc

i proved that theory wrong!!!

MY aprilia mx 50 with stock carb etc stock front pipe and a universal end can was louder and faster than a mx 50 fitted with a full arrow sysem and a bigger carb! He just made a little blip of knoise top end and drank fuel like no tomorrow!!!


my mx with a 14 tooth front sprocket went of the clock and down to the bottom of it (read 68mph on gps)

And that was me 13 stonne and on a flat!!


arrow pipes are crap on 50cc bikes sound crap no note atall untill last minuite blip and then dont last long!!


long live my dead aprilia!!!!

If she was still alive id take any other mx style 50cc bike with bigger carb etc and full pipes to the cleaners!!

a rs50 could only just beat it top end!!! and thats a streamline bike!
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[Welshd1k]

[Strapstah]

lol why?. all my parts are road legal?. and im 17? so i can drive a derestcited or bored bike?, i when i had my crash i broke both levers, so i took one the clutch of my quad and bodged it but then i had hand gaurds on it(which also broke in crash), and when i had hand gaurds i had to cut the ball at the end to fit em properly, and as for the bend brake lever thats from my friends SR 50, because mine broke and not even aprilia center had it. Dont ever go aprilia center!!

Would u give me your spare? pleeeeeeeeaaase

Ps u gotta admin my MX looked better than ours
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[Welshd1k]

[Strapstah]

LOL DO NOT TEST ME. I will shut u up by the end of this post...

Ok, first off all the specs of my bike:

80CC Polini Bore
Polini For Race 3 Exhaust
Polini For Race 3 Air Filter
Pollini For Race 3 Clutch
22MM Delloroto Carb
Renthal Chains Sprokets ... 12t at the front and 47t back


Visuals:

Renthal Bars
Real Carbon Alloy Gear Stick
Pro Grip 929 Grips
Acerbis Light ( With indicators)
Small Number Plate Holder
WritZ Fast Action Throttle
Carbon Indicators
TNT Carbon Kick start

Lol about its plain how can u judge like that with out seeing the sides.

https://i11.tinypic.com/3zth7kl.jpg
https://i18.tinypic.com/43msmjt.jpg
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[Welshd1k]

haha well mine is a legall bike.... your aint for a 16 year old and all your stuff is juat a waste of money on a 50cc bike... what it do 70 max at a push??
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[Strapstah]

Im 17? like i said above?. Yeh hits 70-73Mph Clocked on GPS. Which in my opinion is fast for a 50cc. But you can go on and boast that you have 125 blah blah i dont care u was once at my point so thats all that matters.
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[djneu-trix]

BANG!

all this over a 50cc bike exhuast!
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