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SoulRider
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PostPosted: 11:07 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Project bikes VFR400? Reply with quote

Hi,

Well as some of you may know i want to learn bike mechanics so am looking for a cheap project bike also to learn *cough* wheelies etc*cough* as i dont fancy dropping my current bike.

Ive got a bit of spare cash but not enough saved up for buying a complete bike. anyway been looking through alot of the old 400's and found this

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Im not sure as firstly, is it easy to get parts for this bike?

And is that to cheap, it doesnt say milage and why it failed the mot. will it be worth my while saving up for a bit and buying a complete 400 to strip down and work on or does this sound like a good place to start?

I will be starting all my learning from the haynes manual of the selected bike that a buy so as you can guess time is not an issue.

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PostPosted: 11:11 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You're thinking of buying an incomplete, 20 year old import which was an MOT failure?

Braver than me...

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PostPosted: 11:16 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

ahh didnt realise its an import as well.

So you think its better to save and buy a complete bike? Is there any 400's or even 600's that are relativly cheap that you would recommend looking at?
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Choose a bike which doesn't have a horrendously complex engine, with gear driven cams and two cylinder heads.

You'd be better off with a CBR400 if you want an easier engine to work on.

Choose a bike which is easier to wheelie. A 400 4cyl isn't the easiest in the world.

Choose a bike which is easier to get parts for.

A good one to go for would be a 500cc parallel twin. An old GS500E would be better, because its a twin, it is air cooled, it is easy to get parts for, it is possible to wheelie it, parts will be cheap, the bike will be cheap to buy in the first place, and downgeared it might make a pretty good stunt bike.

If you want a small stunt bike, you'd be better off with an SV650 as it has a grunty engine, which is simpler than a VFR. Crash protection will be easier to get hold of, and it has pretty good brakes. A crash damaged SV will be peanuts to buy and will make a cracking stunter.

As others have said, buy a runner that needs a bit of work for the MOT as your first project. Unless you want to rebuild a bike from the ground up as a labour of love, you don't want a non running VFR.

Avoid anything which has electrical issues too imo. But that might just be me!

Good luck!
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got an 89 vfr import with alot of bits missing. Being an import does not make the parts harder to get. It may for some bikes but there are so many vfrs being broken its easy and pretty cheap.
Id say steer clear of that one you saw though as there is more missing than present currently!
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PostPosted: 15:52 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

id go with what the others have said, being an ex owner of a v4 i know what a complete pain in the arse they are to work on,
the gs500 is super easy to work on and if you manage to learn to wheely on that, you will be able to wheely anything,(no power wheelies for the gs)
an sv is probly the easier to wheely as its fairly powerfull and very light.
not as easy to work on, but a million times easier than an evil v4.
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PostPosted: 15:59 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Ahh well my current bike is an SV650s but its to nice to drop.

Crash damaged im guessing i will need to be carefull what i get but then i suppose as long as frame is in tact it wont be to bad. is it best to go for the standard or get another sports version like mine.

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PostPosted: 16:14 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you are looking for a easier project, I have a VFR400 with 99% of the parts, just not in one piece. The motor has minor problems with the fuel system. Might just be dirt in the carb.
I'm willing to sell it.
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PostPosted: 17:45 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Graham88 also has a crash-damaged vfr400 with a good engine. Buy two and make one good one.
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PostPosted: 18:11 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

How do you wheelie a GS? Smile

I might be tempted to do you my '95 GS for £600, complete runs and rides but needs attention to brakes, electrics and fork seals.

Good way to get your feet wet
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PostPosted: 22:05 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
How do you wheelie a GS? Smile

I might be tempted to do you my '95 GS for £600, complete runs and rides but needs attention to brakes, electrics and fork seals.

Good way to get your feet wet


Personally that sounds like a good deal right up until the point when you said electrics.

Plus £600 for a GS with all them issues? Look on ebay Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:09 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

SoulRider wrote:
Ahh well my current bike is an SV650s but its to nice to drop.

Crash damaged im guessing i will need to be carefull what i get but then i suppose as long as frame is in tact it wont be to bad. is it best to go for the standard or get another sports version like mine.

Cheers for the help Thumbs Up


If you get an early curvy SV with a dented tank, then you can have a nice stunter, and have a load of spares for your main bike. Makes a lot of sense when you could pick one up for a grand or less.

Be warned though, any bikes with front end damage will have bent forks. I learned that the hard way :-/
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PostPosted: 22:14 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-CBR600-cbr-600-FN-1993-De-faired-slight-damage_W0QQitemZ180082096620QQihZ008QQcategoryZ9806QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


There is a damaged repairable curvy SV on there too, but its at a grand starting price. My bet is, he won't get that for it. It has a dent in the tank, as previously mentioned.
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PostPosted: 23:16 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
SoulRider wrote:
Ahh well my current bike is an SV650s but its to nice to drop.

Crash damaged im guessing i will need to be carefull what i get but then i suppose as long as frame is in tact it wont be to bad. is it best to go for the standard or get another sports version like mine.

Cheers for the help Thumbs Up


If you get an early curvy SV with a dented tank, then you can have a nice stunter, and have a load of spares for your main bike. Makes a lot of sense when you could pick one up for a grand or less.

Be warned though, any bikes with front end damage will have bent forks. I learned that the hard way :-/
The electrical problem is the indicators need connecting up properly and the loom by the headlight needs to be tucked in, moving major
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PostPosted: 01:07 - 10 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MarJay wrote:
https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Honda-CBR600-cbr-600-FN-1993-De-faired-slight-damage_W0QQitemZ180082096620QQihZ008QQcategoryZ9806QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem


There is a damaged repairable curvy SV on there too, but its at a grand starting price. My bet is, he won't get that for it. It has a dent in the tank, as previously mentioned.



that bike is going fror £290 and only has 18 hours left.

and also it appears to have been dropped pretty bad. de faired so i guess it was all heavily damaged......extra tank included apparently....but what colours!?!?

could be worth it i guess....
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