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Phil_C
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PostPosted: 12:59 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Cold hand advice Reply with quote

Hi folks, this is my first post so please bear with me..

I am looking for advice on what to purchase to keep my hands warm on my CB600S Hornet. I was looking for some sort of "wind defeater" like you get on trials bikes and courier bikes. I don't like the idea of those things you put your hands in, in case I need to let go quickly. Heated grips won't do any good as my palms are warm, but my fingertips and thumbs are bloody freezing. Thicker gloves will just reduce my feedback.

Hope this makes sense! Thanks Wink
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Simple
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PostPosted: 13:07 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

plenty of oposts on this I will however humour you,

start with inner or winter gloves
still cold?
>hot grips
still cold?
>bar muffs

if you're still cold after that you need better/more baselayers, think longjohns and thermals...

the aboe keeps me warm and I'm fragile Confused
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PostPosted: 13:24 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

No, you seemed to have missed what I said. I don't want to use heated grips as they will only warm my palms, not my fingertips and thumb, which are proud of the grips. I don't want to use muffs as they could be unsafe (my opinion). I need to stop the wind-chill factor on my grips, then the gloves will keep me warm.

Longjohns and thermals? O.o I'm warm, my hands are bloody freezing.
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PostPosted: 13:26 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Re: Cold hand advice Reply with quote

Phil_C wrote:
Hi folks, this is my first post so please bear with me..

I don't like the idea of those things you put your hands in, in case I need to let go quickly.
Hope this makes sense! Thanks Wink


I hate bar muffs for that very reason and wont use them now. You do get used to them in the end but you realy have to think about how to take your hands off the bars in an emergency.

Hand gurds are good as they keep the windchill off your fingers and together with heated grips they do keep all of your hand warm.

As mentioned above inner gloves can help, but have you thought of something like these....

https://www.aleather.com/chromezone/1230.00_01.jpg

They keep your fingers together and then they will stay warmer...Bit its hard to give a driver the finger with them as it looks more like you are waving at them. Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 13:40 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You can get heted gloves for about £100, my mate suffers from bad circulation in his hands and the cold really effects him, he uses the heated gloves and has no problems.

It is a simple connection of a wire from the battery that pokes just out of your seat, here is a connection plug for the wire that sits inside your jacket. The wire in your jacket detaches from the gloves also.

They are very, very good and are better than the grips for obvious reasons.
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PostPosted: 13:51 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Can you get model specific brush guards?
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PostPosted: 13:57 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thinking I think they are universal, it would boil down to the handle bar diameter, but I am sure you can get model specific ones as the companies would not want the chance to miss out on that opportunity to charge 3 times what they are actually worth.
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

You cant have looked into heated grips too well then, I have oxford wrap around grips, they're larger, so the whole inside of your hand is warm,

long johns and body warmers keep your core temperatue up.. so the blood reaching ur hands is hot rather than having lost its heat as it goes down ur arms...so ur hands stay warm.

Muffs can be unsafe, mine took 2 weeks to get positioned suitably, now they're a doddle and work wonders.

Muffs become second nature if you ride your bike enough you adapt to them, I dont even notice them any more.

I wont wear thick winter gloves after hitting a car in a car park because I couldn't get my hand around the clutch lever (was non adjustable) it flicked from under my fingers and I went bonnet surfing
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Phil_C
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PostPosted: 14:00 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Good advice guys. £100 for some heated gloves are probably a little extreme for me (not the price, but the wiring up etc).

Finglonga: where could I find gloves like that? I admit my gloves are probably more summer wear than hardcore winter thermal, but even with thick woolen linings they can't keep the cold out.

No-one have any idea where I can buy the defeaters? I know tourers and trials bikes use them (for different reasons).
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PostPosted: 14:01 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Most are universal but mainly for trials bikes, mine came as standard (added the spoiler thingies after).

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PostPosted: 14:02 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Maplin did do heated gloves for £5, firend had a pair, put battery in each,, he said they were ace, when I went to get some they'd sold out in cov, may have some near you?


good winter gloves are HG ones, about £30 I think. look on their site
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Finglonga wrote:
Most are universal but mainly for trials bikes, mine came as standard (added the spoiler thingies after).

Some....Here


most bike shops sell them, can be had on ebay, can be adapted to fit almost any bike, we had a set on the RX50,
you need the wrap around ones Ideally, so if you drop the bike they save your levers.
we had a pair of these: https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/RM-Husky-Yellow-enduro-hand-brush-guards-handguards_W0QQitemZ250082505796QQihZ015QQcategoryZ25644QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

you can also modify them with old plastic bottles to block more of the wind out by cable tieing bottles to them.

found these on ebay https://cgi.ebay.co.uk/HANDGUARDS-HAND-BRUSH-GUARDS-BLACK-MOTOCROSS-PIT-BIKES_W0QQitemZ290078419034QQihZ019QQcategoryZ122304QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem
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PostPosted: 21:31 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I don't understand why people think bar muffs are "unsafe" Question

I've used them for years covering 1000+ miles a week as a courier, and also use them now when I'm instructing.

I've come off bikes a fair few times before with muffs fitted and never, not once, have I got "trapped" in the bike - you're on the deck before you even have time to think "shit, what about my hands" Mr. Green

The only unsafe thing about them can be that without minor modifications is that at speed the windblast causes them to blow back onto your front brake lever, or clutch. A simple solution is to put a hole in the top of them to "thread" the mirrors through, and a hole in the side through which you screw your bar end weights. If you're on a faired bike, you can't do them through the mirrors generally but through the bar ends alone should do the job anyway.

The bigger muffs are better (chortle), ie. when you put your hand in you want half your forearm to disappear, and consider covering the outside of the muffs with gaffer tape too as added wind/rain protection.

If you have cold hands, then a combination of heated grips and muffs should solve your problems - this week I've covered about 800 miles, riding about 8/9 hrs a day and not had cold hands once - would rather this, than have the lines of my bike unspoilt but leaving me with numb fingers...
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PostPosted: 21:36 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Imonster wrote:


The only unsafe thing about them can be that without minor modifications is that at speed the windblast causes them to blow back onto your front brake lever, or clutch. A simple solution is to put a hole in the top of them to "thread" the mirrors through, and a hole in the side through which you screw your bar end weights. If you're on a faired bike, you can't do them through the mirrors generally but through the bar ends alone should do the job anyway....


agree with through the bar ends, I'm going to do that with my left one as it flaps about a bit, doesnt cause a problem to the levers but doesnt cover enough of my arm.

My hands were toasty when I rode the 84 mile on motorways back from uni this afternoon, I arrived home with a hefty coating of snow on the muffs, my lid and jacket Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:26 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

my advice is to wear a lot more clothes.

Keep your core body temperature up, and your hands wont feel cold. I wear a down puffer jacket under my bike jacket, and padded ski trousers over my bike trousers.

if you dont like bars mitts, try lobster gloves (a bit like mittens). If you dont like lobster gloves, get some cheap winter gloves off ebay.
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PostPosted: 22:34 - 09 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

As above keeping your arms warm is an important part of keeping your hands warm. I don't like using bar mitts but I am using them now and I don't see them as being at all dangerous. There aren't many reasons you would want to take your hands off the bar in an emergency anyway and even then the natural reaction is to adopt a "death-grip".
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