Abu Izzadeen - noise maker

killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

The guy who giggles about the London bombings.
Supports terrorism
‘Educates’ Muslim children the way he sees things

Generally lives like any other British citizen, but in this case, he doesn’t care for any of you.
He states that “He really loves Britain, but hates the way his people are treated”

We’ve dealt with our weird and wacky government for decades, we struggle to put food on the table, we can’t live in a respectable home anymore. Why he thinks he’ll come to this country, saying things like he has and having an equal sharing to the things we’ve built on, I have no idea.
Every time I read reports about him, there’s that small part of me that thinks he might no be all that bad, that he is standing up to government in the way we should. But we don’t see what happens behind closed doors.

The government seems to be where his finger is pointing. Arguing that there are things that they do that are against Islam.
The home secretary for example is now ‘An enemy of Islam’

https://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/uk_news/5362052.stm

I have no idea what this man does for a job, from the look of him, he can spare a few quid.
He has children (god help em) and lives pretty well, how? I have no idea, perhaps he works in Clarks. I very much doubt it.

Channel 4 news showed the incident in the open meeting where he started piping up again about Islam again.
We have a reason to be wary of this chap as one of his plans is to have Muslims who join the army to be be-headed.
This guy is strolling round like some sort of respected talker, he obviously has followers, and all this is well known to the forces.

After the reporting, some well spoken British muslim, head of the human rights of the Islamic community, (suit and tie, beard etc) explains that this is nothing more than a witch hunt, and excuse to jail more Muslims…………

That guy was educated here, and yet he agrees with that bloke.
I’m confused.
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GodzGift · World Chat Champion Joined: 12 May 2006 Karma :

another boring extremist, whats new
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Harley Godzisz · Trackday Trickster Joined: 15 May 2004 Karma :

At the end of the day, this country was originally romans, and was mostly Christians in the early 1950's...

I say: We didn't ask you to come here, if you come to our country, you agree to live by our country rules and laws. If you don't like it or the way your treated here, fuck off!! Laughing

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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Probably best if I keep my mouth shut over this one, I could get in serious trouble if I comment.

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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

OK, from another angle....

Last year, over beer and curry, a young British Christian (from India) couple 'let slip' their feelings over the present situation regarding yong muslims living in our country. They are concerned that they are becomming more extremist year on year, and the extremists are growing in number, exponentially, as the older, peace-loving, non-extremists are dying off.
Also, a good friend of mine (a non-practicing muslim) has intimated to me that he knows young people who are becomming quite extreme in their anti-christian (perhaps anti-western) views, when not to long ago they were relatively nice people who would not normally have given any cause for concern.

Various peices of information have come to light about our government and what they do for immigrants. Things like, supplying fully furnished housing complete with TV and license fee paid, cars to allow them to visit family members in other towns, employing gardeners to keep the gardens neat and tidy for them. The government has also forced landlords to sign an agreement to say they will not divulge this information to the the press, or anyone else for that matter. The list is extensive. When this information becomes common knowledge, feelings towards certain groups will become flared and even more hatred will set in.

[Just gone back to the thread to check I was on topic, I think I am]

So I guess my point is this, I watch the news alot and see almost on a daily basis, another muslim complaining about poor treatment, no doubt rallying other muslims to their cause. They are jumping on the bandwagon at an alarming rate, and our government keeps bending over and taking it up the jacksy, constantly giving in to their demands. This behaviour needs to be stamped out. I understand there are peace loving muslims out there who may not wish to see these things happening, but they are being tarred with the same brush at the present time.

I hope it never comes to this, but I foresee a revolution on the horizon. Certain areas of this country may become 'no go' areas and it needn't be that way, if we act soon.

[wearing flame and bullet-proof jacket]
Gordon

Harold_Shand · World Chat Champion Joined: 07 Jun 2004 Karma :

Sponging cunts that have found fame and attention. The dumb cunts and the even dumber fuckwitts that follow them will turn themselves inside out in a few years. When the shit hits the fan for them boys, and it's coming....

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LibDem 119
English Dem 75
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UKIP 8 (eight!)
(BNP 31%, UKIP 0.45%)

...they will see, I think their perception of Britain is very different from the reality.
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Harold_Shand's theory might be the best explanation.

killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

Gordon, cheers for the insight...

I just wanted to add this, i don't really understand the whole situation as its something i wont press on.
My sister is married to a Muslim, he is from Morocco and in the past, has worn a bomb belt, now before you start thinking, why is he a member of youir family!?
He was very young and easily influenced. I can imagine over there, it wasn't odd to wear one in a protest manner, it wasn't 'armed', he was probably making a statement....i dunno.
All i know is, for a devout Muslim, this isnt strange.

Now he is a Muslim, he prays on a rug, he fasts, he thinks men should work, women should cook and stay in doors etc.
May i add here he smokes a little dope and drinks Rolling Eyes

My sister is happy, thats all that matters to me, but a few things have come out in the past that have made me think that i was right about what i said a few threads ago on this subject.

Muslims here, that practice the Islamic faith are lead by people who speak out about the westerners, they eat pork, therefore dirty people, they drink and puke and do other things the Prophet says is bad (keeping it simple, but you know what i mean)

I know that a lot of British Muslims stay quiet, but behind closed doors i know they dont speak of their surrounding communities with good faith.
When Suddam was hanged, i was in the kitchen at my parents and made a joke about it "Oh look Saddams hanging out with friends"

My sister walked out of the kitchen.

We are the best of friends, we dont argue, she's been a role model for me since i was born.
That really confused me, my first thoughts were....have i got it wrong, was he really that bad?

lol, of course he is.
My point is, she was born Christian, she seems to quite like the Muslim faith, she's read the Koran and doesn't eat pork.
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killa · Won't Shut Up Joined: 18 Oct 2004 Karma :

It makes sense with the rest of the post.

Nothing wrong with not eating pork...
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All I know is that I live in a country that all ethnic and religious minorities think is the pits and is persicuting them and not allowing them their basic human rights, but yet we are still getting inundated with immigrants legal and illegal. They still keep coming day in day out. And it is the White christian majority that is leaving this country to set up homes else where.
I know I'm a bad person, I haven't thought bad thoughts or said bad things but I know I'm bd because some immigrant says so.

And as for the tree hugging recycle is the new religion carbon footprint plant a tree turn a light off brigade. Just looking forward to te day I get planted in a wooden box, mind you that won't be eco friendly or religiuos tolerant soon.
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scorps · World Chat Champion Joined: 29 Jan 2007 Karma :

and the same quote springs to mind each time "when in rome"

try going to a strong muslim country, say saudi arabia and have a pop at their religion publically, dont think so somehow you wouldnt last five minutes, ive seen christians who've dared to proclaim their faith ending up publically lashed, if you believe they are tolerant of others ways you are living in cloud cuckoo land, the fundamentalists intend on obtaining world dominance and forcing us to live their way and if we dont stand up for our rights and ways we will succumb eventually and the sad thing is we will only have ourselves to blame
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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

Mister James, no I am not a BNP supporter. Why one earth would I socialise with Indians and good Muslims if I was.

You may have noticed that I hardly ever argue with anyone on this forum. All members are free to make their comments on any given subject and I never blatantly call anyone a liar or a fictionist. I make the choice to either absorb what they say, or disregard it.

A word of advice, to assume that a person completely unknown to you has "manufactured" events in an attempt to support an argument simply isn't cricket. There is absolutely no reason to question what I typed. In this case you should have read it, forgot it and bid me "good day".

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cestrian · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Jul 2006 Karma :

James, thank you for your advice, however misplaced. The vast majority of what I typed is fact. The only thoughts open to critique were, "I hope it never comes to this, but I foresee a revolution on the horizon. Certain areas of this country may become 'no go' areas and it needn't be that way, if we act soon"

And with some respect, you remind me of my seventeen year old step-son. He too will argue his point just for the sake of it, even when there is precious little (or nothing) to argue about. And as usual, he knows everything too. I expect he will have grown out of it before he reaches the age of 18.

Regards and ride safe.

Gordon