Obscured plate..Fixed penalty.. WTF officer?!?!?!

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Was out riding with some mates and we got pulled. The officer was unimpressed with my plate angle aswell as my mates but he had a cut down plate too. Now my original numberplate fitting was ripped off in an accident so I made my own bracket. It also cannot be tilted any closer to the floor. My mates numberplate bracket is a complete unit with the LED brake lights. My mate argued that it had passed numerous MOT's as it was but according to the officer it was different regulations. He said our numberplates must be 90 degrees to the floor. Now I have L plates and if my numberplate was 90 degrees to the floor with an L plate then it could hit the tyre! (my bike is used off-road aswell), Well anyway he said the only reason to have our plates at such an angle is to avoid detection so I got a fixed penalty while my mate got a fixed penalty for his illegal plate. Ironically my plate was actually at 90 degrees before I went out cos the bracket had bent when I was out offroad so I fixed it because I didnt want to lose a 15 quid numberplate and in the end I got a 30 quid fine!! I also did not have my rear L plate on the bike because it had come off and the duck tape was no longer sticking but I did have it on me and I told the officer but he did not ask to see it (didnt care). I got a warning for that for which I am gratefull but im wondering should I appeal against the fine. I know if I did win I would prob get done then for not having my L plate displayed but Id rather 3 points than a 30 quid fine as I am overdrawn and dont have a job (laid off) and I dont want em gaining money from me! Not only that I need a new tyre extemely soon (I think its on the limit so im lucky he didnt spot it!).

What do you think? I mean Ive seen kit cars with their numberplate on the bonnet and yet it still passes an SVA and MOT!!

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Wafer_Thin_Ham · Super Spammer Joined: 18 Nov 2005 Karma :

Load of crap IMO. Never heard of such a law, I'm sure someone will prove me wrong in a minute. My plate isn't 90 degrees to the floor. Can think of very few bikes that are.

Did he measure it with his EU standard issue protracter(sp)?

As you just started biking i'd say just pay it and don't worry about adjusting it...... you don't want points already, it'll put your insurance up.
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Kickstart · The Oracle Joined: 04 Feb 2002 Karma :

Hi

Not sure on the rules on numberplates, but if you got 3 points for the L plate then you would get a £60 fine with that.

All the best

Keiht
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Jamie S · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Karma :

looking at your avatar your plate is at a perfectly normal angle for the type of bike thats its on, there are lots of bikes with plates like thats round here and i have seen some drive past the police and not get pulled. If I was you I would apeal . If you dont win you could allways say its at that angle so it looks normal when you are wheelying. Laughing

lol.

element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

shaun_04 · Brolly Dolly Joined: 06 Aug 2005 Karma :

The copper sounds like a class A twat.

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Jamie S · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Karma :

alter the angel and then appeal or did he get a pic of it ?

Pete. · Super Spammer Joined: 22 Aug 2006 Karma :

Not sure but I think the only way you can pay off your fine bit by bit is if you get fined by a court. Of course if you appeal and lose you're probably going to have to pay an increased fine plus costs.
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

At what angle is it from vertical? 45 degrees is clearly taking the piss imho!
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

About 60, no wonder the cop pulled you! I think he was harsh in giving you a ticket but you were asking for a pull. Try not to be conspicuous, I run on un-silenced exhausts but ease back on the throttle if Plod is about.

Nice looking bike though Very Happy

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element · World Chat Champion Joined: 23 Jan 2006 Karma :

Not had a problem in the past and they sell brackets that have the numberplate at a similar angle..

I think he was being light on me for not having my L plate to be honest.. He only gave a fine to my mate for an illegal plate though.. Mine was for plate being obscured..
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Stiffler · World Chat Champion Joined: 24 Sep 2006 Karma :

Tbh one look at that photo and it screams "taking the piss" to me. And I really don't buy the fact you can't have it at more of a sensible angle...

I thought you were asking to be pulled after the first time I saw your avatar and it's not a suprise to me that a copper's had you for it. Tbh I would have thought that many would just have said get it sorted and let you off... But I guess you were unlucky.

Lucky you didn't get someone totally by the book or they may have tried to throw an additional penalty at you for the L plate!

Tim
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Jamie S · World Chat Champion Joined: 28 Dec 2006 Karma :

just like neons for cars they can be sold but not alowed on the road, if you read the box it says for off road use only !

Wooly R6 · World Chat Champion Joined: 19 May 2005 Karma :

well this is a standard R6 and what angle is this number plate
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Ariel Badger · Super Spammer Joined: 02 Dec 2006 Karma :

that R6 is about 20 from the vertical, in fact the slight tilt lines it up better for your GATSO snapshot.
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wilbur · Traffic Copper Joined: 20 Sep 2006 Karma :

Sorry but tht WAS ripping the piss. Sad

st3v3 · Super Spammer Joined: 16 Oct 2006 Karma :

thing is, NO bike is sold with the number plate at 90degrees (??to the road) and the copper was a dick but the plate should really be more noticeable, and the person at the counter you were considering blagging to, will probs just sit there and take your money, not care about your situation.
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