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JodieWodie
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PostPosted: 19:34 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Meetings about future meetings Reply with quote

It's an endless corporate crud circle Laughing

I was sat there at work today, (council), when another wonderful email popped into my inbox
Apparently there had been a meeting this morning (a 2 and a half hour one Wink marvellous) and from that meeting a further 2 meetings have been purged from it, to discuss that meeting Shocked
I mean... wtf
All everyone seems to do is have meetings...
Meetings to discuss meetings
And to arrange further meetings about that meeting
Or meetings to arrange future meetings and discuss the content of those meetings
And at the end of it all... nothing is achieved
Just discussion
Shocked And people being high from caffeine Wink

I think people make up meetings to look important. All the lower bods don't have meetings they work

Another splendid email popped into my inbox at the end of the day too from my boss...Story>
Now, I have a task to do next month, a finance task. Never done it before, so have to do a half day training in a couple of weeks, then it will take me 2 weeks to complete the task as soon as I get back.
My boss knows this.
He emailed me the training day etc..
The email reads.."Lets have a meeting and discuss the approach to this task" Shocked
A one hour slot to discuss...
Sit on chair>
#1 - I train for half a day
#2 - I complete the finance task in 2 weeks as is already apparent
#3 - End

What a load of ol' bolloc*s. I wonder how much money is spent on people chatting over coffee in a locked room each year?
Meeting about paper
Meeting about carpet thinning on the corridor
Meeting about photocopying
Meeting about the toilets

I love this picture, a 'demotivator'
Just about sums the office up Mr. Green

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PostPosted: 19:41 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It's posts like this that make you think privatisation could be a very good thing.
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PostPosted: 20:00 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I'm so glad that I just go to work, do my job and then go home again.

Occassionaly I have 'link meetings' (never go as cant be arsed to go in on my days off or before work) and they just bellyache about this and that, more often going on about the minutes of the last one Brick Wall Rolling Eyes It is so unproductive Mad
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PostPosted: 20:01 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Unfortunately this sounds all too familiar.

Some time ago at my place of work, they claimed to be actively trying to reduce beauracracy(sp?) and "red tape"...

so what did they do about it?? They set up a project team to have regular meetings about it.... Rolling Eyes
a bit of a viscious circle there, eh?!
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PostPosted: 20:51 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

All council's have an underground agreement that nothing will ever be achieved in a meeting. They all go in believing this and lo, it turns out to be true.
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PostPosted: 21:14 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I have always been particularly irritated by the concept of the "pre-meeting". WTF? A meeting to discuss the meeting we are about to attend?

Some people have too much time on their hands. Rolling Eyes
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PostPosted: 21:20 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The company i work for is moving into a brand new state of the art building. The building has 3 floors with one floor being made up entirely of meeting rooms Shocked

At least i won't be doing much work when we move to this new building, i'll be too busy in meetings Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 21:25 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Id love to be stuck in endless pointless meetings Laughing
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PostPosted: 22:07 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshit Bingo FTW!!!
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PostPosted: 22:08 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Always in meetings at work. Its a gag amongst the more laddish of us to have your own catchphrase and manage to fit it in infront of the most important people you can. Another is 'blading' where you put a dig in at a friend (again in front of the heirarchy).

They can be boring though and being the tech expert my main input is normally at the end or a presentation at the beginning of a two hour meeting. Nodding a lot helps though.

Popular catchphrases are

all day long

Nail it on

Bottom it out

touch base

and my personal favourite 'to re-iterate what you said {so and so's name}.......' followed by a nod with 'spot on'.

Worst thing we have is that no one deals face to face, its all 'ill email you this, ill email you that' if your computer breaks your bolloxed
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PostPosted: 22:24 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

*sigh* Since the new managers took over the Pub its been meeting after meeting. Oh, and we have a meeting tommorow morning Rolling Eyes
There is no need, I dont see why we have to have a meeting every fooking week. Oh, infact we have 2 bosses, 2 assistant managers - Bosses who I hardly ever see work, so maybe its just them trying to catch up Thumbs Down
Might have a word and see what its really about - wasting my time on my days off Twisted Evil
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PostPosted: 22:30 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

maurice wrote:
It's posts like this that make you think privatisation could be a very good thing.


Private companies can be just as bad. We had the rediculous situation of a meeting for 8 people, 6 from the Midlands, at a site north of Leeds. A single 3 hour meeting, including travelling was probably 50 man hours of time. Yet we are meant to be doing support with an absolute limit of 35 man hours work for anything (including bureaucracy).

The Demotivators posters are pretty true.

https://www.demotivators.com/viewall.html

All the best

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PostPosted: 22:34 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think everywhere is the same!

My pet hate is the "Team meeting" Everyone in your department sitting in a room to discuss what you are doing and what you have done. I have a 30 minute team meeting every Monday and a 2 1/2 hour team meeting once a month.Most of the time is spent discussing the minutes from the last meeting and planning when the next one is.

The company i used to work for was even worse. They moved one step on from the meeting to the Video conference. It's just a meeting staring at a screen with what looks like lego men at the other end, and people speaking over each other as the time lag is so bad. It just ends up as a meeting on either side of the video link with a distracting noise coming from the lego man movie at one end of the room.

That said they did come up with good meeting ideas and how to make things better. A message was posted to the entire division of the company on meeting rules. Such things as

If there is no agenda sent out at least 2 days before hand, you don't show up.

If you are not required for all of the meeting, walk out. If the section you need to be there for is near the end of the agenda, only turn up at the time that section starts. If the meeting is running late, leave.

New meeting rooms were created. They could only be booked for 20 minutes max. They had no chairs, and the tables where about chest height when standing, they were also only big enough for a few coffee mugs. No white boards, no projectors, no plasma screens or phones. You went in the room, say what needed to be said and got the hell out. They were known as bird table meetings.

Stuff like that really did help, but there was still too much going on.

Still, it gave us a chance to move on to complaining about group emails, where people copy in half the company when there is no need, the person just wants to look important!
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PostPosted: 22:39 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Villers wrote:

Popular catchphrases are

all day long

Nail it on

Bottom it out

touch base

and my personal favourite 'to re-iterate what you said {so and so's name}.......' followed by a nod with 'spot on'.


At the end of the day

Think outside the box

Brain Storm

Customer focus

In a nut shell

And my personal favorite

Steve, wake up and pay attention






Get said EVERY meeting
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PostPosted: 23:12 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

"going forward" is a popular one at my place.
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PostPosted: 23:45 - 22 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Democracy is well and good but when you need to get something done, you can't beat a good dictatorship.

Businesses should be like this:
The boss spends his time deciding what is to be done then tells his managers. He may not have the exact details of how this is to be done because that's not his concern. He employs people to work that out for themselves.

The managers tell the group they are in charge of what is to be done and people get on with it. If it was wrong, it is the bosses fault, that's why he is the boss and gets paid a lot more than everyone else.

If you think it is wrong, by all means pass it back up the line but in the meantime get on with what you are being payed to do (ie. what the boss says you do).
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PostPosted: 07:53 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Once we dicussed the dangers of opening a cardboard box that is taped up, with a scapel.

Don't cut towards yourself, you'll die!!

Laughing

Meetings, i always need a red bull.
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PostPosted: 09:18 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bullshit Bingo anyone?!
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PostPosted: 14:03 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I work for arguably the biggest bureaucracy in the country, (can you guess what it is?) Below is an email sent out by our facilities Helpdesk, I can only hope they where being ironic:

Hello All,

We are experiencing some issues with the toilet use in various areas throughout **** Square.

Flushing Mechanisms

We are receiving numerous complaints regarding the time some of the flush mechanisms take to work. We would ask that when flushing you hold in the toilet flush button as long as it take for the toilet to begin to flush. We are currently working on providing a solution to the flushing mechanism problems throughout the building so we would be grateful if you could bear with us.

Personal use of the toilets

This doesn't really apply to the female members of staff, so if you are one, loo(k) away now.....

Gentleman, if standing to make use of the toilets, please do your best to ensure that no 'accidents' are left on the floor or on the toilet bowl. If there are any 'accidents' on behalf of other member of staff and not least, our cleaning staff, we would be grateful if you could clean it up. If all else fails....sit down !

Paper Towels

Can we also just remind staff that paper hand towels should not be flushed away down the toilet, but placed in the waste paper bins provided in each cubicle. Also please use toilet tissue itself in a manner which is not going to lead to blockages.


You co-operation in these matters is, as always, much appreciated.


In December another email was sent out about a recent fire drill berating staff about the time it took to vacate the biulding. The fire marshalls had a meeting and advised us all that we should use the stairs atleast once a day so we could practice using them.

I avoid meetings, I just can't handle them. If I had to choose one phrase, its the rocket science one, just so patronising. Evil or Very Mad I know I had a go at someone on here, but its always annoyed me...
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PostPosted: 14:13 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

gemma1675 wrote:
I have always been particularly irritated by the concept of the "pre-meeting".


Oooo they are so valuable - we have to have public meetings so have "pre-meetings" in a closed environment to make sure no one is going to present things that will cause the press to have a field day. It happened once, and we have since learnt our lesson Smile
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PostPosted: 14:17 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I think we need a meeting to discuss these issues Laughing
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PostPosted: 15:16 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

LH-ER5 wrote:
Bullshit Bingo anyone?!


mary jane wrote:

PostPosted: 15:07 - 22 Feb 2007 Post subject:
Bullshit Bingo FTW!!!



:/ are my posts invisible?

oh, and speaking of meetings, at our manager's meeting this week, I was a subject on the agenda. Rolling Eyes They actually spent time in their meeting trying to figure out how much weight I've lost. I got told about this after the fact, of course...
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PostPosted: 15:34 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Mary Jane wrote:
LH-ER5 wrote:
Bullshit Bingo anyone?!


mary jane wrote:

PostPosted: 15:07 - 22 Feb 2007 Post subject:
Bullshit Bingo FTW!!!



:/ are my posts invisible?



Ooops! Sorry! I was still hung over when I posted that!
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PostPosted: 15:36 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Meeting are what companies do when they have nothing better to do. If your going to a meeting the your 'clearly' very important (said with a Bridget Jones tone).

I work for a private firm that support the council. We dont have enough meetings & generally i dont have a clue whats going on. Whereas our customer 'the council' live in meeting so we can never get hold of them.

It's all hoitey toitey hooo haaaaar Razz
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PostPosted: 19:43 - 23 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I love this thread! Surprised
I thought I was the only one on the planet that endured the pain of the 'meeting to discuss meeting' Thumbs Up
It is good to see so many others wallow on my corporate misery Wink

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The building has 3 floors with one floor being made up entirely of meeting rooms

Yup.. same as ours. One whole floor of big rooms. With tables. Chairs. Flipcharts. HUGE coffee machine to keep you the fu*k awake! Mr. Green

Quote:
Another is 'blading' where you put a dig in at a friend (again in front of the heirarchy).

I LOVE that. I do it all the time Thumbs Up

Quote:
The Demotivators posters are pretty true.

Concur Thumbs Up

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My pet hate is the "Team meeting"

Me too! We have 1:1's and Personal Development Appraisals, but worst of all is a monthly 2 hour team briefing. We discuss the minutes of the last meeting for about an hour, and then have an 'Ice Breaker'. Basically someone asks a stupid question, then we chat sh*t and laugh for half an hour.
Then we discuss a couple of things, and what should be in the next meeting Rolling Eyes

Quote:
They were known as bird table meetings.

I love the idea of the chest height tables Thumbs Up I may call a meeting tomorrow to discuss the possible idea Wink

Thanks all for contributing
(said in a managerial end-of-meeting stylee)
Mr. Green Wink

You are free to leave now and get back to FU*KKIN WORK!
Oh, it's the weekend
Well..
prepare what you are going to do on monday in a personal 1:1 with yourself!

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