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PostPosted: 14:31 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Navigating Motorways? Reply with quote

Hi,

Didn't quite know where to put this, but I've got to make the longest journey on my bike yet (160 miles, Liverpool to Chipping Norton if you're interested) and I've only been on the motorway 3 times!

I don't understand motorway signage, I'm ok knowing what junction to come off on, but I've got to go M6 > M40 > M42 and I'm not sure how I'm going to be able to tell what lane to get in?

I know it's not a long journey, but I'm crap at navigation, what should I write down? Junction numbers, or destinations?

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PostPosted: 14:34 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you know what junction to come off just get in the left lane and come off at that junction, nothing more to it really.
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PostPosted: 14:35 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

It will be well sign posted telling you where to go and which lane to be in. If you have to be in a specific line then there will be and arrow above it with the place name.

for example

https://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/images/sign138.gif

It might be worth checking out the highway code mate here

https://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/signs06.htm Thumbs Up
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PostPosted: 14:38 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you're not too confident about where you're going these are a good idea...

https://www.urbanbikes.co.uk/acatalog/ox%20mag%20map%20holder.JPG

Put a few yellow post it notes on the map with some scribble on to remind you of when you've gotta get off (Junction Numbers), where you're going and more importantly the actual Road names that you've got to remember.

On the Motorway overhead signs will invariably point you in the right direction.

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PostPosted: 14:41 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The route M6, M40, M42 is easy. It's really clearly signposted with plenty of warning.

Just keep your eyes peeled for cars/lorries changing lanes at the last minute.
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PostPosted: 14:52 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
The route M6, M40, M42 is easy. It's really clearly signposted with plenty of warning.

Just keep your eyes peeled for cars/lorries changing lanes at the last minute.


Thanks for that, I don't like it when you get a choice of motorways (Example: M432(W), M432(E)) but I'm guessing if I write down the destinations I need on my tankbag map I can pick off the route I need by the description?

I'm alright on A-Roads, I think it's a confidence thing as well because I used to be terrified of Slip Roads as well, not so much now.

Just need to find myself a flyscreen now! Smile

I've been down that way to Tamworth as well today via the M6 toll so I know that bit (In a car though!)
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PostPosted: 14:58 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The chances are that the destinations will not be signposted on the "other" motorway. They tend to just show the main place that is on the new road so don't rely on it.
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PostPosted: 15:06 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Just had a look at the route your taking.

It's straight forward, you won't get lost. Thumbs Up Wink
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PostPosted: 15:18 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Toby,

I've never done this, but looking at short1uk's post reminded me of this site which I think you've seen before.

You could use the simulator, or the exit lists in the motorway database, to get an idea in advance of what you'll be looking at.

Personally, the only problem I've had with motorway exits is zooming past them in the outside lane without even realising!

Bon Voyage!

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PostPosted: 18:41 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Motorways are fairly simple once you get used to using the information you receive on the signs. The lanes you should be using are usually clearly signposted, but as for making sure you go the right way I think a quick check of the junction numbers you need and counting down to them is easiest method by far to get where you are going.

https://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/images/sign138.gif

Look for the Junction numbers (the number in black at the far bottom left of the sign). If you plan ahead and check which junction's you need they make knowing where and when you have to come off very simple.

Also useful are the distance markers which are on exit signs. For example the 1/2 mile on this sign. Sometimes they can highlight a junction exit as early as 2 1/2 miles so it's pointless pulling over and sitting with the trucks. Aim to be prepared to exit the motorway once you pass the 1/2 mile sign. (Don't start playing the exit game me and my friends do until your feeling a bit more confident... (300 yard) III sign means lane 3, II means lane 2, and I means lane one, which on a busy motorway is both dangerous and stupid)
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PostPosted: 19:19 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I always do it by junction numbers. Be aware that they are not always sequential, occasionally they miss one out and occasionally they add in an extra one (like 15a).

There is always a 1 mile, then 1/2 mile warning sign then a III, II, I countdown to the actual sliproad. So at the mile start thinking. At the 1/2 mile, look ahead for your gap in the slow lane and be in it before the III marker.

Be aware that motorways going into other motorways often don't use sliproads. They will pull a lane (or sometimes 2 or 3 lanes) off to one side then merge them with the next motorway. As such, you never actually 'leave' the motorway, just smoothly progress from one to the other.

There will be plenty of warning on the overhead gantries which will carry the road number and an arrow pointing down to the lane or lanes you need to be in to be carried onto that road. This information is usually marked actually on the lane too.

Half a mile before the lane is about to leave the current motorway and join the next one, you will notice the white lines between the lanes become much shorter (almost squares). You need to be in the correct lane at this point.

Some potential pitfalls:
Arrow You can miss roadside signs when overtaking HGVs.
Arrow Be aware what direction you are travelling in. You may be presented with a choice of "M6 (North) : M6 (South)".
Arrow Watch the overhead gantries so as not to miss which lane you are supposed to be in. This applies for both changing motorways and staying on the current one. You will often get the two right hand lanes staying with the current motorway and the two left hand lanes veering off onto a different one.
Arrow Watch out for people suddenly veering across the motorway at the last minute when they notice they are in the wrong lane.
Arrow Where the motorways merge can turn into a total free for all with the fast traffic joining at the left making a dive for the new right hand lane (sometimes through four lanes of traffic). Also for underconfident drivers on the one you are joining suddenly finding themselves in the third lane of four, shitting a brick and making a dive for the slow lane.
Arrow Watch out for brake lights ahead as a free flowing motorway joins a conjested one.

Don't worry though, it's a piece of piss. The signs are bloody enormous and are designed to be read at high speed, you get plenty of warning of what's coming up. Just watch out for indecisive/inattentive people chopping lanes at the last minute.
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PostPosted: 20:02 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you miss your junction turn on your hazards and perform a nice U-turn like you learned on your CBT. Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 20:24 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
If you miss your junction turn on your hazards and perform a nice U-turn like you learned on your CBT. Mr. Green


Can't remember what I had for tea yesterday let alone what I learnt 2 years ago! Very Happy

Thanks for the info Stink... I've looked on that online motorway database and the roadsigns look pretty simple until it gets to the M6 Toll, I'll figure it out anyway, got a couple of weeks left.

Still scared of subjecting the GS to 130+ miles of Motorway as I'm not sure how reliable it will be!

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PostPosted: 22:13 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

When you get to the part of the M6 where the M6 toll splits from the M6 it is very clearly signposted. Just keep in mind to stay in the left lane of the M6 as you approach the split if you are not sure and you will be guided almost automatically to stay on the M6.

Try not to be nervous when you are travelling as you are more likely to make a mistake when you are worried. Don't forget the worst that can happen if you take a wrong turn is that you have to find your way back on to the correct route so take a good quality up to date road atlas with you.
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PostPosted: 22:15 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Grrr

My aunt just emailed and said my mum doesn't want me taking the bike and she'll pay for a coach...

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PostPosted: 23:37 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Grrr

My aunt just emailed and said my mum doesn't want me taking the bike and she'll pay for a coach...

...


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PostPosted: 23:56 - 27 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If you have a wank in the bog on the coach and tell the driver he will give you a special badge. It is the National Express version of the Mile High Club, You get 8% discount at Greggs the bakers if you show them it to them when ordering a pie.
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PostPosted: 13:15 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

1930 Ariel wrote:
If you have a wank in the bog on the coach and tell the driver he will give you a special badge. It is the National Express version of the Mile High Club, You get 8% discount at Greggs the bakers if you show them it to them when ordering a pie.


So what's the badge for then?





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PostPosted: 13:18 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Grrr

My aunt just emailed and said my mum doesn't want me taking the bike and she'll pay for a coach...

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So what are you going to do?
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PostPosted: 13:49 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Bendy wrote:
Toby R wrote:
Grrr

My aunt just emailed and said my mum doesn't want me taking the bike and she'll pay for a coach...

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So what are you going to do?


Take the bike or not go.
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PostPosted: 14:02 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dont take the motorway then or take a white stick and a labrador! Mr. Green
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PostPosted: 14:14 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Toby R wrote:
Grrr

My aunt just emailed and said my mum doesn't want me taking the bike and she'll pay for a coach...

...

Awww Bless.

It's only a Motorway. Just a dual carriageway with 3 lanes (maybe 4) and a slip road. That is all.
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PostPosted: 16:33 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Even the M6Toll junction is pretty well marked.

I don't think you can go wrong to be honest.
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PostPosted: 16:43 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Annabella wrote:
Even the M6Toll junction is pretty well marked....

Still scared me going north from the NEC the first time.
It's just you had to be in the right lane and the lane you're in for non-toll looks like it goes to the toll, but doesn't Confused
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PostPosted: 16:49 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Stiffler wrote:
Motorways are fairly simple once you get used to using the information you receive on the signs. The lanes you should be using are usually clearly signposted, but as for making sure you go the right way I think a quick check of the junction numbers you need and counting down to them is easiest method by far to get where you are going.

https://www.highwaycode.gov.uk/images/sign138.gif

Look for the Junction numbers (the number in black at the far bottom left of the sign). If you plan ahead and check which junction's you need they make knowing where and when you have to come off very simple.

Also useful are the distance markers which are on exit signs. For example the 1/2 mile on this sign. Sometimes they can highlight a junction exit as early as 2 1/2 miles so it's pointless pulling over and sitting with the trucks. Aim to be prepared to exit the motorway once you pass the 1/2 mile sign. (Don't start playing the exit game me and my friends do until your feeling a bit more confident... (300 yard) III sign means lane 3, II means lane 2, and I means lane one, which on a busy motorway is both dangerous and stupid)

Motorways are NO place to be playing games you Numpty.
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