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PostPosted: 19:33 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Just been attacked by a dog! Reply with quote

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My sisters boyfriend has 2 rottweiler things, only youngish, year or so.. fairly big though.. fiesty little fuckers.. was stroking them nicely and they were fine for ages licking my hand and generally okay, then all of a sudden for no appararnt reason one of them fuckin pounced on my trying to bite my face, I moved too quick (reactions of a cat me Cool Laughing) so it got my left arm instead and clawed my right arm as well! Not hurt too badly really as luckily the dog was on a lead and he pulled it off almost as quick as it went for me..

I just don't understand why the dog turned so quickly for no apparant reason and attacked!

I'm not against "devil dogs" as they are known, but fukin hell i'll be a tad more scared of dogs, in general, in the future! I'm always cautious anyway and was sat in the room for about 10 mins to make sure they were calm before I went anywhere near it.. so its not like I gave it any reason to dislike me Shocked
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PostPosted: 19:54 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

bitt odd , I think this is one for the bcf resident bovine proctologist Razz


dogs can get over excited at times and might play in much the same way as they would play with each other, would explain the licking then having a pop
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PostPosted: 20:05 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Dogs from the "Gundog" group have what is called "a soft mouth" (due to the nature of their work, retrieving game, they don't want to damage the bird upon retreival) this means they can playfull gnaw on your arm without you feeling it too much.

Dogs like Rotties, German Shephards etc don't have "soft mouths" as their line of work doesn't require them to do so. Therefore, them playfully gnawing, is actually quite painful and can often draw blood.

The best thing to do if "attacked" by a dog (of any breed) is to stay still, do no make eye contact, and just wait until the dog leaves/calms down.

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PostPosted: 20:13 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weedy wrote:
The best thing to do if "attacked" by a dog (of any breed) is to stay still, do no make eye contact, and just wait until the dog leaves/calms down.

Weedy


Who on earth told you that? Those are non-threatening behaviours, so in theory will not provoke an attack (other than alpha displays), but that's certainly not a good way to behave if there is actually an animal going for you. How do you define "attack" in the context you are using the word? Letting it chew on a body part while ignoring it and waiting for it to get bored really is not a good approach.
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PostPosted: 20:16 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Sudden or agrivated reactions in the first instance are not adsable, usually what a dog who considers itself alpha is looking for is for you to submit.

Submission as Weedy correctly states is likley (true - not always) to gain a better result than panic, flailing madly or agression.

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Weedy wrote:
The best thing to do if "attacked" by a dog (of any breed) is to stay still, do no make eye contact, and just wait until the dog leaves/calms down.

Weedy


Who on earth told you that? Those are non-threatening behaviours, so in theory will not provoke an attack (other than alpha displays), but that's certainly not a good way to behave if there is actually an animal going for you. How do you define "attack" in the context you are using the word? Letting it chew on a body part while ignoring it and waiting for it to get bored really is not a good approach.

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PostPosted: 20:27 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

If there is a dog growling at you, baring it's teeth then the worst thing you can do is shout at it or try and shoo it off. The dog will interpret this as threatening behaviour. So stay calm and wait for the dog to get the hint.

If the dog is physically going for you, then use a stick/umbrella etc, to block the attack, but at the same time, stay calm (as you can)
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PostPosted: 20:27 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I had the same thing happen with me Sparks. I stroking my grans dog while sat on the floor.. i was stroking two others as well, and my grans, who is usually quite tame went for my face, fortunately i mangaed to duck out of the way, But it took the top of my ear bk down to the cartlidge. Its fine with me now. But i cant trust another dog fully, given the random outbursts of violance. Because my dog has done the same as well, tho he bit my thumb.
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PostPosted: 20:29 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Should have give the fucking thing a good kick in the head. Sounds like a kiddie mauler in the making.

Of course all dogs have the potential to turn on you for valid reasons that you can avoid, trying to take food away from them, touching a wound ect but if a dog is the type than can just turn for no reason it needs a one way trip to the vet.


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PostPosted: 20:29 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weedy wrote:

If the dog is physically going for you, then use a stick/umbrella etc, to block the attack, but at the same time, stay calm (as you can)


I'd rather just kick it in the head. And if it keeps on coming and gets a hold of me, rip it's eye out. Smile
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PostPosted: 20:34 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Get an Anti Tetanus shot if you do not have effective cover.
Get a muzzle on the dog.
If it attacks a child it's never funny. How would you reconnect two or three wee fingers or repair a ripped or torn face?
I would destroy the animal in a heartbeat. Sorry, but I have been bitten by 'bad' dogs before and do not think bad dogs are worth keeping around.
Lots of dogs are unpredictable arses of things.
(Mans best friend my bahooky. We only say that coz you should keep your friends close and your enemies closer still)
You get delinquent muts just the same as humans.
Only problem with a big hound going off on one is that they can overpower the average sized adult and can seem to have reflex, speed and power far in excess of humans.
On the other hand (bitten or not) are those little Yapafuks. They little shits suffer from SDS (Small Dog Syndrome) Same as humans have WMS (Wee Man Syndrome).
They do not have the same power as a Rotti. But they are fast, aggressive and dangerous to children when they flip out.

I have kept Labs for years and have only ever know one wicked one.

Dogs should be judged on temperament more than fashion.

All in all they are hairy, smelly, messy, dumb-ish, time consuming wasters of food.

Unless of course you love animals. Then you make excuses for them. Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:41 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Weedy wrote:
Dogs from the "Gundog" group have what is called "a soft mouth" (due to the nature of their work, retrieving game, they don't want to damage the bird upon retreival) this means they can playfull gnaw on your arm without you feeling it too much.

Dogs like Rotties, German Shephards etc don't have "soft mouths" as their line of work doesn't require them to do so. Therefore, them playfully gnawing, is actually quite painful and can often draw blood.

The best thing to do if "attacked" by a dog (of any breed) is to stay still, do no make eye contact, and just wait until the dog leaves/calms down.

Weedy


With respect weedy, Shite mate!

Dogs with soft mouths are those that have been 'Trained' to have a 'soft mouth'.
The 'retreiving' caracteristic is what we see in gun dogs. My English Pointer could carry a raw hens egg over fences whole or sometimes say to herself "Awe F*ck it. Am havin' this!" Laughing
Not well trained. Embarassed
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PostPosted: 20:43 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Have you felt the difference between a Golden Retriver chewing your hand, and a GSD chewing your hand?

You'd understand "soft mouth" if you did Wink Laughing
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PostPosted: 20:57 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

What about a dog with a Soft Head then? Laughing
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PostPosted: 21:01 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

The terms weedy uses are perfectly correct in their description and true.

Dogs with a soft head are also known as Chocolate Labradors....


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What about a dog with a Soft Head then? Laughing

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PostPosted: 21:03 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks Mrs H Thumbs Up Cool
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PostPosted: 21:06 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrsHippy wrote:
The terms weedy uses are perfectly correct in their description and true.

Dogs with a soft head are also known as Chocolate Labradors....


Walloper wrote:
What about a dog with a Soft Head then? Laughing


Labs are also top dogs UK and America... So there Razz

For your perusal Missis..
https://www.dogdaysusa.com/behaviorcenter_mouthtraining.asp

https://www.sfspca.org/behavior/aggression.shtml
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PostPosted: 21:11 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

We wernt talking about the habbit of biting we were talking about the method of biting. The way a dog handles what it 'hunts'.

There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


Walloper wrote:
MrsHippy wrote:
The terms weedy uses are perfectly correct in their description and true.

Dogs with a soft head are also known as Chocolate Labradors....


Walloper wrote:
What about a dog with a Soft Head then? Laughing


Labs are also top dogs UK and America... So there Razz

For your perusal Missis..
https://www.dogdaysusa.com/behaviorcenter_mouthtraining.asp

https://www.sfspca.org/behavior/aggression.shtml

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PostPosted: 21:18 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrsHippy wrote:
There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


Oh dear Laughing

Generally you can handle any situation you find yourself in, by understanding the Alpha/pack mentality.
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PostPosted: 21:22 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

Oh yes you should see him walking backwards wagging his head!

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MrsHippy wrote:
There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


Oh dear Laughing

Generally you can handle any situation you find yourself in, by understanding the Alpha/pack mentality.

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PostPosted: 21:23 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

MrsHippy wrote:
We wernt talking about the habbit of biting we were talking about the method of biting. The way a dog handles what it 'hunts'.

There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


As I said, it is what you train the dog to do. A GSD can easily carry game and not damage it as well as a 'Gun Dog' can.
What you are trying to do is prevent the dog's natural tendency to bite. It learns to hold and not crush what is in it's mouth.
A gun dog trained to carry can still take your fingers or face off when it decides to bite.
Have you trained many dogs to a gun then?
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PostPosted: 21:30 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I got attacked by an old lady. Luckily she just gave me a bit of a kick and then went away, but what am i supposed to do? Get beaten up by an old lady, run away from an old lady, or kick the shit out of an old lady?
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PostPosted: 21:35 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

just scare her by telling her that they are going to stop making those plastic rain caps any more that will stop her in her tracks!!

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I got attacked by an old lady. Luckily she just gave me a bit of a kick and then went away, but what am i supposed to do? Get beaten up by an old lady, run away from an old lady, or kick the shit out of an old lady?

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

I beleive Weedy was talking about their actions at play.

Of course animals can be trained to go against their natural intincs thats why its called training and how we have ended up with animals as pets. I have rabbit sleeping here upsidown on its back with its legs in the air at this very moment against every single instinct of nature.


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MrsHippy wrote:
We wernt talking about the habbit of biting we were talking about the method of biting. The way a dog handles what it 'hunts'.

There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


As I said, it is what you train the dog to do. A GSD can easily carry game and not damage it as well as a 'Gun Dog' can.
What you are trying to do is prevent the dog's natural tendency to bite. It learns to hold and not crush what is in it's mouth.
A gun dog trained to carry can still take your fingers or face off when it decides to bite.
Have you trained many dogs to a gun then?

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PostPosted: 21:41 - 28 Feb 2007    Post subject: Reply with quote

sandino wrote:
I got attacked by an old lady. Luckily she just gave me a bit of a kick and then went away, but what am i supposed to do? Get beaten up by an old lady, run away from an old lady, or kick the shit out of an old lady?


Stop Hitting on Old Ladies ya perv....
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MrsHippy wrote:
I beleive Weedy was talking about their actions at play.

Of course animals can be trained to go against their natural intincs thats why its called training and how we have ended up with animals as pets. I have rabbit sleeping here upsidown on its back with its legs in the air at this very moment against every single instinct of nature.


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MrsHippy wrote:
We wernt talking about the habbit of biting we were talking about the method of biting. The way a dog handles what it 'hunts'.

There is an odd strian of chocolate labrador not as stong and intellegent as your genral Lab - Mu mum and Dad have one, he often forgets to breathe!


As I said, it is what you train the dog to do. A GSD can easily carry game and not damage it as well as a 'Gun Dog' can.
What you are trying to do is prevent the dog's natural tendency to bite. It learns to hold and not crush what is in it's mouth.
A gun dog trained to carry can still take your fingers or face off when it decides to bite.
Have you trained many dogs to a gun then?


I saw a rabbit that used to shag a retarded cat at every operchancity.
Weird!! Shocked
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